Game 36: PHX at CHA

The No-Trade-Clause to the bench game

Originally sent in Game 36: PHX at CHA
Eastley

Will we show up for this one?

2 for 15 from 3, please staaaahp

tnhornetsfan

Just can't shoot.

Nice run

Eastley

Jan 15th

meloFan

Refs fucking suck

Melo To Miller Connection

That buzzer beater would've been sweet

powellrmp

First hornets game I’ve watched in a couple weeks

the sick pass from NSJ to Salaun was fun

I’m so sick of miller getting disrespected by the refs

Eastley

Can we just go back to driving the ball. If we let them back in because we insist on shooting 23.8% from 3, I'm going to be so upset

powellrmp

Look at that high percentage mid range from Brandon

Eastley

Someone fill me in on what happened there

meloFan

First up it ain't a foul

Eastley

That foul was called long after the play

meloFan

Let alone a flagrant

These refs are on one

Eastley

Can't fathom how that is a foul

They both fell, no player was disadvantaged there. I'm so confused

meloFan

you blow on Suns and its a foul

we get clobbered no foul

powellrmp

Melo. Damn fam

can y’all imagine if Melo was even just an above average defender?

I’ve been in the NSJ fan club and I truly hope he continues to show out this season. He has a very real chance

Eastley

Up to 30% from 3 now

powellrmp

How the fuck are you not going to call that a flagrant foul. If any of our players hit Beal like that there would be an auto flagrant or ejection discussion

that’s fucking bullshit. I hate this league. The refs make this shit borderline unwatchable. I don’t care that it wasn’t a flagrant one foul, but I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that if a hornets player did that to Beal it would be a flagrant foul

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Eastley

I can't figure how that wasn't a flagrant. Couldn't see the replay but didn't look like he made any play on the ball

meloFan

the refs are paid for

powellrmp

Honestly, I think that should just be a regular hard foul in an ideal world. But this is the reality we live in. I’m upset because if it was Beal in the receiving end it would be ruled a flagrant foul

without a review

meloFan

NICK

SMITH

JR.

powellrmp

Lol Melo. What a follow

its not that I dislike Grayson Allen, it’s just that if he had a tragic wood chipper incident, I wouldn’t spend a lot of time mourning

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meloFan

I DO dislike Grayson Allen, dirty player

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powellrmp

Brandon

my dude

meloFan

What are these foul calls, come on ref

powellrmp

yes

meloFan

Booker or Durant, if it goes in, its good, if it doesn't it is a foul

powellrmp

way to atone your sins brandon

ooooh boy that foul call

ohhh my lawd

that’s a nice way to end a long losing streak

meloFan

WE WIIINNNN

Heck yeah

First game I’ve watched in a couple weeks. Don’t know why I felt like watching this one, but I’m glad I did. Things that stood out from what I noticed:

-limited turnovers. Very few “sloppy hornets turnovers” that make you want to bang your head against the wall

-rebounding. 59-42 rebounds in favor of charlotte. Richards and Williams were both excellent on the glass. 10 rebounds in 22 minutes for mark and 12 rebounds in 25 minutes for Richards.

-the team defense was pretty sound. Which is great, but this is largely due to the rebounding. the defense will always look way better when you win the rebounding battle and limit second chance points.

-NSJ has turned it up a little. I’m really rooting for the guy and I do believe he can pull things together and be a piece of this rotation.

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My takeaway is that between his last post win TV interview and last night, someone has worked with LaMelo. Almost a professional interview. Nice win for the guys. Best they’ve played in a while. Good to get one before a long west coast trip.

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I was actually holding my breath while watching that. Was pleasantly surprised.

He was able to mix in some fun Melo with the professionalism too, when he answered the question of “did seeing that first three go in help you get your swag back”? With: “nahhh i always got that”.

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Me too, never really happened before. Perfect storm of all the holiday activities and travel combined with not waking up everyday feeling motivated to expose myself to the absolute soul sucking dumpster fire from the accursed pit of misery downtown. But I still followed along!

I definitely did want to see this one. Had a sneaky feeling they could win this (although since I didn’t proclaim it publicly, you’ll just have to trust me bros).

I just felt having the projected full starting lineup together uninjured for the second game in a row could loosen some cobwebs and get some rhythm established. It took a little more time to loosen than I thought, but it did in the second quarter. Was getting a little worried that Mark’s hands were transforming him into BizMark Willyombo in front of our eyes.

They looked like they cared in this game. Played hard, played in control. Melo got his shots, but it felt much more in the flow vs. just chucking it up from deep every chance he got. I realize it was still 16 threes, but there were 12 twos, and he seemed willing to probe the lane, attack the basket, and really looking for others to set up. Really nice one handed pass to Miles under the basket for an and one dunk on Durant.

Of course, the betting lines were more on the Suns, so the refs were going to try to help them get over their seeming lethargy. Haven’t really seen Durant have too many off games - even though he still had 26, more shots found themselves climbing out of the hole.

But the refs were really blatant. The foul on Cody Martin on Booker was whistled almost 3 seconds later, after we had gotten the rebound and started to go down court. Are players not allowed to contest fadeaways now? There was no contact on the shot, booker landed on the floor out of bounds, and his legs tripped martin up as he looked back for the rebound. Has been a no call my whole life, and they even considered it for a flagrant?

Booker is nice, but he’s not the golden calf the league relies on for ratings, why do they protect him so much. Besides the no call when he slapped and grabbed Melo multiple times on a shot, with the refs suddenly losing their vision for multiple violations of the NBA rule book regarding illegal guarding and hitting.

Speaking of refs losing vision, they sure “saw” Durant get nailed in the nose by the wind of Nick Richards putting his arm down. Durant should be above acting like a bitch, pretending he got hit in the face and grabbing it in agony, but the refs just assumed there was a foul because someone grabbed their face. I thought you were supposed to only call what you see, not guess what might have happened.

Anyway, great win, I think its sustainable, but the refereeing is so obviously in tune with FanDuel prop bets, Tim Donaghy would even shake his head in shame.

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I might be on an island with this game but I felt we did a lot to lose this when we continued to shoot 3s incessantly with only a 20ish percent chance of makes for the large part of the game. I loved it every time we drove to the basket or passed into the lane with a chance to score in the shadow of the rim. And I do think the drives deep into the lane to pass out to a wide open 3 were vastly different to the majority of 3s we took that never left once side of the court or worse, never left more than two touches before launch. I hope we can go to school on what worked here and start to change toward that as guidance going forward.

I agree. I definitely noticed that this interview seemed very different than most of his previous ones.

That was one of the more ridiculous calls I’ve seen all year, which is saying a lot. I was surprised/disappointed we didn’t challenge that because there appeared to absolutely no contact whatsoever. Refs totally gifted them 2 points.

I agree with this, particularly late in the game. The one that stuck out to me was Brandon’s 3 in the corner, after we had recovered and offensive board (which I think was off of a 3) and instead of running time off the clock he shoots and misses a 3 with 20 secs on the shot clock. Just not smart basketball when you have a double digit lead with 2 mins to go in a game against a team with scorers who can erase a 10 point lead in very little time.

But that aside, I thought this game did provide a glimpse of what we could be with a nearly intact roster. Not Brandon’s best night, but every game our core gets to play together, the more they build synergy (hopefully) and the more we learn about whether these are the right pieces or not.

In particular, NSJ had some great passes based off of driving towards the rim. The behind the head pass to Salaun was slick.