Game 54: DET at CHA

[Eastley]

Game chat: Chat #Game 54: DET ar CHA

[tnhornetsfan]

I’ve been looking forward to this game to judge where the team is now. I felt like in the first matchup this year, DET just physically whipped us. Let’s see if we’ve improved. I think we have.

[cltblkhscoach]

Now this is a crock of BS. I used to respect JB Bickerstaff but f*** this

Detroit Pistons coach J.B. Bickerstaff: Hornets 'crossed the line'

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Originally sent in Game 54: DET ar CHA

Mich_Mercer

This is going to be a very tough game. We are fighting though.

GoBobcats24

Bad start and we are down 5. Let's regroup here and get in going. Miles got fouled though

On the slap down

Mich_Mercer

This feels like a playoff game.

powellrmp

We’re so lucky to have Dell and EC. Pistons commentators suck

Mich_Mercer

Yep. I’m stuck listening to them too. lol

cltblkhscoach

Touch fouls on us. Funny

powellrmp

Horrible

Mich_Mercer

They definitely aren’t as prepared as Eric Collins is with the facts.

powellrmp

I have super clean videos just Detroit only

Mich_Mercer

Same… using what you sent me. Works well…. But sometimes, we dont get Dell and Eric. :(

powellrmp

If you want to watch ad free relays of games, watchreplay.net is great

cltblkhscoach

Good response

Mich_Mercer

The fact we are right there is surprising to me. We are hanging!

powellrmp

Don’t know if I can post that or not

cltblkhscoach

Defensive intensity is in the right place. Stay in the figt

Mich_Mercer

But yep… we are going right at them. You can tell we are super confident.

cltblkhscoach

Fight

Mich_Mercer

You have all the good stuff man. I really appreciate you. You’ve saved me big time… otherwise, I couldn’t watch right now

tnhornetsfan

Feel like the refs let Detroit play extremely physical defense

powellrmp

Oh trust me, me either. My house flooded with 4 feet of water in July from Chantal. My wife and I are out 200k. Free streams for me it is lol

Mich_Mercer

Sorry dude… I hope you guys get back on your feet.

Chef

Playing well. Duren has filled out. He is straight trying to bully kaulk. It will be interesting to see if kaulk can fight back

Scion looks overwhelmed. First I've seen that this year

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Mich_Mercer

They’ll review this but it was honestly that dudes fault for falling.

powellrmp

Me too man. Still not back in our house. Paying 2500 rent plus our mortgage. Really complicated situation. Our rental ends at the end of march, so we’re going to rent an RV and park it in our driveway for two months

Chef

My daily reminder: reviews are killing the product

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Mich_Mercer

I think that fouls that aren’t intentional should never be reviewed as a flagrant… including the stupid 3 point ones.

powellrmp

Man cmon

Chef

Grant doing grant things

He could have played in the 90s

Dagger 1 release

cltblkhscoach

The way Detroit presses up on defense they are begging to be backdoored at some point

Chef

Kon needs a top gun call sign

powellrmp

Talk to me goose

Grant has gotten better over time from his injury return

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Chef

Dagger 2 release

Mich_Mercer

I can’t wait to have Coby White. Going to make a huge difference when Lamelo sits.

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powellrmp

Oh man Coby is going to be such a huge boost

Chef

Oh

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!

powellrmp

SION

Mich_Mercer

If Sion can’t knock down those 3s… that’s huge

cltblkhscoach

Man we winning this shit!

Mich_Mercer

Hell yeah!

Who needs Coby White!? Ha

This team is crazy… the bench has improved so much as well. It’s like someone hit a switch. But healthy is a big factor.

cltblkhscoach

Hot shooting should open up the off the dribble game

tnhornetsfan

Nice close to the quarter

I'm starting to hate Detroit like I did in the Laimbeer days

Mich_Mercer

And now Grant is finding his touch too.

dnbman

For what it's worth, Malwarebytes was very unhappy with the link posted earlier.

Mich_Mercer

We seriously may win the title if we win this game. Am I crazy!?

Chef

I love watching kon

Mich_Mercer

Next year…. I can see us being the 1 seed… against the Thunder in the finals and for years to come. And it will be two teams who did it the right way.

powellrmp

I’m going to miss HP so much. I was on another forum and got into a “discussion” with someone who was saying that we absolutely need Lonzo because Sion is terrible. And that Lonzo would actually cut into tre Mann’s minutes, not sion’s. To which I said “Tre Mann isn’t in the rotation.” To which was returned with a screenshot box scores of Tre Mann’s minutes during blowout wins.

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Chef

So good

Mich_Mercer

I’ll miss HP too. We can keep it going on the discord.

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powellrmp

I’m going to miss HP so much. You guys are my Hornets family

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Mich_Mercer

Well all have to add each other on social media or something. Haha so we can make sure we keep up.

powellrmp

It hurts even more because of whats happening this season.

We’ve been waiting for this so long!

cltblkhscoach

I may keep HP going guys. Have a convo with East scheduled here in the coming weeks

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powellrmp

I can donate $20 and good vibes.

Chef

What is the yearly cost?

cltblkhscoach

I was told $1200, paid monthly

Mich_Mercer

It’s $1,200 a month!? For real?

powellrmp

Again: holy shit the Detroit commentary is horrible

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Mich_Mercer

All the suffering and then we lose this. Haha we can have both things though. We are the Hornets after all. lol

cltblkhscoach

Lol something is better than nothing

This is playoff intensity

powellrmp

WOW what a bad call

My wife does digital design and website development. And pretty big projects too

cltblkhscoach

If we're able to keep HP around definitely will look at some stuff

Mich_Mercer

That’s awesome man. I used to want to to that at one point… but kind of quit the graphic / web design thing.

cltblkhscoach

I'm tired of people saying Melo doesn't care. He's got the passion

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powellrmp

Sorry Coach, Melo isn’t a “winning player”. Too bad

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Mich_Mercer

Also… I’m sure the wife will be stoked to have all this work to do now. Haha

We’ll pay her in good vibes. ;)

Chef

$100

That was an egregious walk melo

Mich_Mercer

I had a website that was $20 a month for my photography… I figured this was the same. I was wrong. Ha

cltblkhscoach

$100/ month

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spectre

I’ll help

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powellrmp

Same

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Mich_Mercer

Cool… I was shocked when I read it as $1,200 / month. lol

Chef

Clogged toilet flushed

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cltblkhscoach

Let's go Tre

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Mich_Mercer

Tre is making sure he gets some PT when Coby is back.

Chef

Not with that shot

Mich_Mercer

Hell yeah! We came to play.

Chef

Grant is a wonderful interior defender

Mich_Mercer

I may be a little behind you guys.

tnhornetsfan

That's a charge

Chef

Hate to say it but coach countdown actually helped Brandon there

I love the look on these guys faces when the refs even let it get a little physical

So good

Gotta stay focused here

This like a playoff game

powellrmp

That was nice D by Sion on Cade

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Originally sent in Game 54: DET ar CHA

cltblkhscoach

You see why Detroit is so good. Their offensive style is sustainable consistently

To go along with their defense. They're a throwback

woodsy23

Went cold at the end of the half, Turnovers hurting us too

Chef

Detroit defense is really good

meloFan

Sign me up for $10a month until Lamelo is traded

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Mich_Mercer

Man… I wish we had Duren go to with Moussa.

cltblkhscoach

Good grief

Mich_Mercer

I can’t let it go.

GoBobcats24

We have to penetrate the paint a hell of a lot quicker on offense than what we are doing

Mich_Mercer

Duren < nothing in a few years

powellrmp

Detroit ended the half on a 14-2 run?

What’s that run at now?

En route to a blow out loss

Holy shit dude grab the ball

Mich_Mercer

Whoa!

powellrmp

Don’t back down

cltblkhscoach

Chef here you go

Mich_Mercer

Holy shit!

cltblkhscoach

Bad Boy Pistons

Mich_Mercer

We need a playoff series here

powellrmp

Good.

cltblkhscoach

Guaranteed 8th seed now

powellrmp

WE DONT TAKE SHIT FROM ANYBODY

cltblkhscoach

Love the crows

Crowd

powellrmp

Now I have to buy a Diabate jersey

Mich_Mercer

I love how we didn’t back down.

powellrmp

That’s the fucking energy I want. Send a message. We won’t take shit from anybody man

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Mich_Mercer

Hope miles didn’t throw a punch. Or Moussa

powellrmp

Duren with the slap into the face LIKE A BITCH

cltblkhscoach

Duren running like a punk

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GoBobcats24

Detroit does this every time they play here

powellrmp

Duren is a little fucking bitch

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TheDorkLord

Miles is gone too I bet

GoBobcats24

Fuck these Detroit fuckers

powellrmp

Man I’m so glad that Diabate lost his mind. Because the refs weren’t going to call SHIT on Duren

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cltblkhscoach

Miles might be gone too

Mich_Mercer

Hafe that miles through a punch there… but I stil like it

powellrmp

Good. I’m fine with miles

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Mich_Mercer

Duren hit Moussa in the face first. Good for miles to not letting him get away with it

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powellrmp

Yep that builds a locker room

cltblkhscoach

I don't hate it for us. This is what we've wanted for years

Care and fight

powellrmp

Yep. I’ve been bitching about it for so long

Good.

cltblkhscoach

I don't mind getting Duren out the game

powellrmp

YES!!! OUR GUYS HAVE A PULSE. OUR GUYS STAND UP FOR EACH OTHER LETS GO

I’m so proud of these guys.

Bring back the “let’s go hornets” chants. The hive is alive baby

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spectre

Those guys saved Durans ass because moussa was about to beat it silly

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powellrmp

I couldn’t quite figure why Moussa lost his mind until I saw the replay. And that’s when I was happy.

Jalen Duren is a little bitch

cltblkhscoach

This rematch with them is going to be something

powellrmp

If we win this game, this is a pure legacy game.

I think this is our last game against Detroit

cltblkhscoach

Well it's going to take a hell of a shooting effort to win this

powellrmp

Is this like a 20-6 run for Detroit since the end of the 2nd?

meloFan

Well somebody tell Kalk to foul like he means it, not like a toddler

powellrmp

Horrible man

Mich_Mercer

We can’t win this game now… I feel there is no chance.

cltblkhscoach

We have to get back to moving the ball

Been too much iso

meloFan

Charlesdo something

GoBobcats24

I wish we could hold people on defense like Detroit can

Wow

Unbelievable overturn

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cltblkhscoach

It's something else man. I guess if you do it all the time they won't call it every time

GoBobcats24

Lamelo's 5th

Thanks NBA

powellrmp

WOW

Terrible man

Mich_Mercer

Foul much?

meloFan

Refs absolutely have money on pissboys

powellrmp

That would’ve been a foul called on us

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dnbman

Man… just saw the replay of the fight. (not watching game) That's wild. If this breaks the win streak, hopefully it adds fuel to the Hornets fight the rest of the season.

Mich_Mercer

I feel like we are watching the Hornets injured team again. I’m scared miles may be suspended a game too.

powellrmp

Tre Mann. What a horrible turnover dude

cltblkhscoach

A loss doesn't hurt us much tonight. But not having those guys for ATL is big

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powellrmp

COULD REALLY USE COBY WHITE HERE

cltblkhscoach

We gotta move the ball!

Damn it man

powellrmp

Holy shit Tre Mann is horrible. The difference between this year and when he was healthy is insane

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cltblkhscoach

Down 10 still a shot

powellrmp

KALK

It feels like a 16-20 point deficit honestly.

meloFan

How is that not a foul on bmill tho

Refs are atrocious, just like our tos

GoBobcats24

Just saw the Bridges punch, he will be suspended

meloFan

Duren and Stewart should be suspended too

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cltblkhscoach

Bad thing is this is Tre's kind of game, we need someone who can get his own shot

There you go!

Fight!

powellrmp

Big Kalk energy

Cold blooded shot by Cade there

GoBobcats24

Tre Mann killing us

cltblkhscoach

He's a damn dog man. Impressive

That bs touch foul man

powellrmp

Yep

cltblkhscoach

A touch foul on us, but they can clutch and hold all night

meloFan

Yup, utter BS. Refs are so disrespectful against us

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cltblkhscoach

Man we need Coby

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GoBobcats24

Brandon Miller pushed to the ground, jump ball

Lol

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cltblkhscoach

If anything we are going to learn a lot from this

powellrmp

All star Paul Reed

Mich_Mercer

These commentators love so Paul Reed.

meloFan

Refs can go eat a bag of diggs

Mich_Mercer

Yep… we will see them again in the playoffs

cltblkhscoach

This is how a playoff game is called. Though it should be a lot more balanced

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powellrmp

This would be way different if we had Coby white

It’s so sad how bad Tre Mann is. Considering how exciting he was

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Mich_Mercer

Yep. We are so undermanned now.

cltblkhscoach

Hell yeah Coach

powellrmp

GOOD

FUCK THE REFS

Mich_Mercer

There you go

powellrmp

YES YES YES

Mich_Mercer

Coach Lee!

cltblkhscoach

That's bs deserved ejection

powellrmp

flopppppy paul Reed

meloFan

Hell yeah Coach Lee

My RESPECT

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powellrmp

This is the best loss we’ve ever had

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meloFan

This game will be an inflection point for us

powellrmp

Charlotte doesn’t take shit

meloFan

From now on you fuckers better watch US

WE GOING TO PLAYOFFS

cltblkhscoach

Fight!

powellrmp

Fuck the refs.

meloFan

BALL DONT LIE

powellrmp

This is everything I’ve been wanting. Our guys to stand up. Coach Lee to stand up. This will be the most important game of the season.

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meloFan

These REFS better be looked at by FBI, as NBA doesnt do shit

cltblkhscoach

That crowd was every night in the 90s

Imagine that

powellrmp

Sellout crazies in the hive

So loud

cltblkhscoach

Yeah!

powellrmp

OH LAWD

Oh wow they called a foul

cltblkhscoach

First foul.of the quarter on them smh

Mich_Mercer

Detroit complaining to the refs. lol

powellrmp

And Paul Reed is even bitching about lol. He shoved the dude down haha

Mich_Mercer

Big brawl if this is a playoff series this year.

cltblkhscoach

Damn!

powellrmp

Mannn if Kon hit that…the roof would’ve erupted

Yes

They called another foul!!

ANOTHER

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cltblkhscoach

Dell calling out the fouls lol

powellrmp

Cade is awesome

Again, I’m shocked they called a foul on Cade there

cltblkhscoach

Man come on

powellrmp

Oh wow

cltblkhscoach

Bout time shit

powellrmp

Oh boy.

The refs make the nba product unwatchable man

I’ve been playing and watching basketball since I was 4/5 years old. And I don’t really understand what’s a foul or what is a travel anymore

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Mich_Mercer

The call it when they feel like it

cltblkhscoach

Shit!

Mich_Mercer

We can’t hit a shot

powellrmp

Damn

Fuck Detroit

Mich_Mercer

I liked them before tonight. It’s on now.

I want them in the first round

powellrmp

That was great defense by Kon.

Perfect defense

Jalen Duren throwing a little man-baby slap was pathetic. And him backing down from Diabate who was about to ruin him was perfect.

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Mich_Mercer

Huh??

powellrmp

Oh wow they’re calling a foul on Grant

Mich_Mercer

How is that a foul?

powellrmp

Wow

The fix is in

This is bullshit

Mich_Mercer

I thought that was an obvious jump ball.

cltblkhscoach

It's all right guys. Everyone knows now this is legit

Mich_Mercer

I feel good we hung with them. Could have gone either way.

Paul Reed… Paul Reed… Paul Reed. These commentators for Detroit.

cltblkhscoach

Need a 3

Mich_Mercer

It hurt so much losing Moussa. We need one more big like him.

powellrmp

I gained a ton of respect for coach lee. I’ve been begging to see a pulse from him for a long time

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Chef

At first I thought for sure duren said something to set moose off. I think moose just lost it and couldn't get it back. Kind of worrisome

powellrmp

Duren slapped him like a little bitch

I’m so sick of Lee sitting back and taking it. And just clapping. Good for him for going after the refs

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Mich_Mercer

We couldn’t hit the open shots when we needed to

Chef

After moose head butted him

powellrmp

Eh.

Chef

I get the fight. I can't quite figure out the level of losing it that happened to moose. There were legit police escorting him to the locker room

cltblkhscoach

If Kon or BMill hit those open 3s we could have pulled it out

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Mich_Mercer

Moussa was blacked out there… lol

cltblkhscoach

That possession was huge

Chef

Yeah that's not good mich

powellrmp

Getting in someone’s face is different from bitch slapping someone and then basically running away

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Chef

I get it, it's the not being able to regain his composure after it was clearly over

meloFan

Yeah but refs had the fix since the beginning

powellrmp

Yeah, he did lose his mind.

Chef

It actually caused miles to get involved. Duren must have said something to miles

powellrmp

I think there’s more to the story and I’m interested to know more about what happened

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cltblkhscoach

No players shook hands after the game. This was real

Chef

Fantastic game. I wish this was the norm in the nba

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cltblkhscoach

That's what it used to be

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[system]

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powellrmp

All I care about is Coach lee going full at the refs and not giving a fuck. We need that

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GeraldWallaceMVP

Tough to lose the streak but loved our fight today

This team has a different energy

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Icky_Thump

Eh…

I don't think the fight was worth all that

The foul issues and Lee taking a stand on that is

GeraldWallaceMVP

I mean like our fight as a team not the fight

Poor wording

Icky_Thump

We probably lost the game because of the fight

GeraldWallaceMVP

Hoping we see them in the playoffs

Icky_Thump

Just not worth it

Chef

It was worth them not backing down in a hyper physical game. They grew as a team on this one

powellrmp

I think the fights and ejections will do a lot for our locker room. Especially seeing coach lee stand up too.

That’s a locker room builder and unifies guys.

Mich_Mercer

No one loved the fight itself but we love how they didn’t didn’t back down, like they used to.

Icky_Thump

@Chef I don't really see it

Mich_Mercer

I wonder if Moussa and Miles laughed when they saw Coach Lee come to the locker room. Haha

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Chef

I guess we will see. There will be suspensions for sure

Icky_Thump

It just wasn't worth losing their cool that way and then probably causing us to lose the game

Lee getting ejected is the real move

Chef

Moose losing his mind might be a problem

Icky_Thump

Its beyond time he stood for them

Yeah

And us losing for really no reason

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Chef

Every team just wrote that down

Mich_Mercer

I mean… no. But you can that push a guy in the face and not expect that reaction.

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powellrmp

That’s the stuff that galvanizes a team. Intensity and focus. Guys have each others backs and show up with more intensity.

Icky_Thump

Why did Moose head butt him>?

It wasn't worth all that lol

Chef

He pushed him earlier in the possession

Icky_Thump

Yeah I don't know @powellrmp in the old days maybe

Chef

They were going at it

powellrmp

Eh, I didn’t see some over the top head butt

Icky_Thump

But WHY?

lol

Chef

It wasn't over the top but it certainly warranted the slap/push from duren

Mich_Mercer

Both players put their heads into each other I feeel like.

Icky_Thump

It wasn't that big a deal to get in the guys face that I could tell unless there was a lot more prior

I don't understand why Moose did that

powellrmp

Because Duren was getting away with a lot of cheap shit.

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Mich_Mercer

I’m sure they had been fighting all game and not just blew over.

Moussa is Rodman after all.

Chef

That's my point, nothing that happened should have caused moose to go ron artest

powellrmp

Moussa isn’t a loose cannon. I very much believe that there’s a lot more to the story

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Icky_Thump

Just really hate to drop the game over some mess and I don't know if it'll benefit them. We were streaking. This feels like it'll distract instead of benefit them

powellrmp

Duren had been ejected several times this year I believe

Plenty of techs

Mich_Mercer

We could have lost the game either way. Detroit was ahead when that happened.

I like the fight… not being the push overs of the league anymore.

Icky_Thump

Yeah but its like we let them take us out of our game ya know?

Chef

Nah, that was just a good physical game. They will learn from it for sure. Those games were fun to play in

Icky_Thump

This feels like it will be a distraction

Mich_Mercer

It’s writing the story line for the first round playoff series

That game was basically early / mid 90s basketball. I liked it

Icky_Thump

I guess. We'll see where the team goes from here

Mich_Mercer

It’s just players today are so soft… you don’t seee that stuff today.

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Icky_Thump

All that's great

I just want wins

We aren't reviving 90's basketball

lol

Mich_Mercer

With no Moussa / Miles… lose 2 straight heading other break… sadly. That does suck

Icky_Thump

Exactly

Not worth it

Mich_Mercer

It was in the heat of the moment man. It happens. I like it. I’ve watched them for soooo long not show any fight.

powellrmp

I just think it’ll further unify the team

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Mich_Mercer

Including the coach. Lee was like… I’m with these guys’

Icky_Thump

We'll see. If we start losing again I'm not sure we'll all feel that way lol

Mich_Mercer

If we start losing bc of that…. We weren’t good anyway. Come on man. lol

Icky_Thump

A young team doesn't need the distraction

We were gelling and rolling

Mich_Mercer

Why is it a distraction? It’ll be forgotten until we meet them in the playoffs

Icky_Thump

It won't be with players out

That's a big part of it

Mich_Mercer

They won’t be out long… but yeah… next game… probably. But wasnt that bad for lengthy ones.

Icky_Thump

I get people love to see the fight. Personally I thought Moose lost his cool. Not sure how smart it was. Again, if there was more prior ok.

I'm more worried we were on such a fluid streak. Playing fluid great basketball and the mood/vibe was so good

Hope they can start a new streak!

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Mich_Mercer

They’ll be ok I think. I too think it will bring them together… not apart.

cltblkhscoach

@Icky_Thump I hope you heard Coach Lee's press conference. First thing he said was this was a great game for us

We'll be much better for this. This was a turning point

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tnhornetsfan

I'd like to have been a fly on the locker room wall.

[Mich_Mercer]

So Duren didn’t didn’t shove Moussa’s head with his hand? Crazy how he says we initiated it.

[Chef]

He pushed first at the start of the possession. They banged during the play. Moose hard fouled. They came together. Moose led with his forehead. Duren met with his. Then pushed his face.

Moose came completely unhinged.

[GoBobcats24]

I’m still pissed about how Detroit is allowed to hold and hand check but we aren’t

[GoBobcats24]

Duren caused it and continued to escalate

[powellrmp]

it was Duren with the head butt. It was Duren with the bitch slap hands to the face. I don’t expect Moussa to react well to getting hands thrown in his face. Straight disrespect. A grown-ass man grabbing moussa’s face with this hands.

Moussa doesn’t do the headbutt. It was Duren who did it. Moussa brings his head forward after Duren initiated the head butt

[powellrmp]

If a grown ass man head butts me and grabs my face with his hand, we’re going to have a big problem.

[tnhornetsfan]

Absolutely. I don’t think we’re emphasizing enough how much the poor officiating played a roll in the brawl last night. As more teams figure out that they can get away with it, that’s how they’ll play. Hated that extremely physical era. Main reason I didn’t watch for many years

[meloFan]

POS. Not like his team is full of dirty players that keep getting ejected, keep getting flagrants etc. Our team has had none of these issues literally on the court in the past two years (I know, I know Miles is there, but until this point, he had improved).

[powellrmp]

Not looking forward to the suspensions though.

[tnhornetsfan]

Moussa and Bridges for sure. Probably LaMelo and Mann. Maybe coach Lee too.

[Chef]

@tnhornetsfan

olutely. I don’t think we’re emphasizing enough how much the poor officiating played a roll in the brawl last night. As more teams figure out that they can get away with it, that’s how they’ll play. Hated that extremely physical era. Main reason I didn’t watch for many years

Strong disagree. Last night’s game was the most I have enjoyed watching an NBA game in a long time

[Chef]

And that’s fine but the inability of moose to regain his composure is the biggest issue. The whole thing should have ended after the swing and the separation. It definitely should have ended after the first break free and re-engagement.

[powellrmp]

I can agree with that. It should have, but I can’t necessarily blame Moussa for losing it. I still think there’s more to it. If I get head butted and a grown ass mad grabs my face like a little shit, I’m going to have a big problem.

And yeah, it was pretty crazy seeing him keep going and be so emotional. If I remember, he recently had a small dust up in the last few games. Did he get a tech? Can’t remember.