Game 8: CHA at NOP

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INJURIES: Pelicans: Dejounte Murray: out (leg).

Hornets: Grant Williams: day to day (acl), LaMelo Ball: day to day (ankle), Brandon Miller: out (shoulder), Josh Green: day to day (shoulder).

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Well Lamelo out again. I still think this is “load management”.

if he can play, he should play. It’s getting old. Just trade him I guess.

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Ankle again.

Need to move on

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The situation is definitely a load. Managed a similar one just a bit ago.

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Hopefully you washed your hands afterwards

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Thought about washing my hands of all of this years ago. Why start now?

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Since the game vs Utah. I’ve been thinking about trading for Markkanen. They probably wouldn’t. But I could warm up to trading LaMelo for LM. I like LaMelo, but this is getting old. Maybe it’s just the way the NBA is now.

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When is the end of Melo and Millers contracts? I bet they’ll somehow manage to play when it gets close to getting payed. And that’s not specifically against them just seems to be the state of NBA as it is.

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Players are jjust handled like babies in today’s game. If they are sore… they should play. It even makes it impossible to play fantasy basketball. lol

something needs to change as it is ruining the NBA.

A thing I like about Miles.. He plays.

it would be different if these didn’t sit out all year last year already. It’s just so annoying bc I strongly believe he can play. If this is how it is… and he will never play through any pain… just quiit.

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Originally sent in Game 8: CHA at NOP
Eastley

Where is the "moose on the loose" shirt sold?

dnbman

Kon seems good.

powellrmp

Get KJ Simpson off the floor

TheDorkLord

this is turning ugly

powellrmp

Why has KJ been on the floor so long? Coach Lee, what the fuck is going on??

What the fuck is going on? Why is sexton off the floor

TheDorkLord

we made some quick subs that didn't work very well… jeez

powellrmp

Huge concerns for Coach Lee

Why make these weird subs?

Why are we being force fed kj Simpson with no sexton on the floor? Is coach Lee mixed up with the Chauncey billups crew??

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TheDorkLord

it was like time to kill what is working for sure

powellrmp

That’s insane to watch that happen as a coach and say “yeah let’s let this roll”.

GoBobcats24

Lee once again struggling after first defensive adjustment

Oh dang didn't know y'all were already talking about him lol

powellrmp

I know Coach Lee preaches their players communicate and be leaders on the floor, so why not call out the coach for nonsense he inflicts on the rotations?

GoBobcats24

Borrego is over here envious of Lee's lineup decisions

KJ came in and killed us both ends

powellrmp

I’m going to be honest, I strongly dislike KJ. And he had his moments last year that caught my attention. But there’s no way this rotation makes any sense. When he’s absolutely tanking

I want to know what DraftKings and Fanduel picked up on the KJ Simpson over bets tonight

TheDorkLord

Collin has to be the most fun at the free throw line

GoBobcats24

We are making Matkovic look like prime DeAndre Jordan

TheDorkLord

Kalk

powellrmp

I’m actually super impressed with Coach Lee. Really impressive patience to make those subs and just let it go despite how bad things got. Great determination

Great message to the team. I’m sure that the was a really meta level big brain thing he can preach to the team

GoBobcats24

Kon showing some fight right now

And lol KJ Simpson back to the rescue

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powellrmp

What horrible basketball

Get connaughton off. Jesus

Eastley

This making shots to slow down their transition is critical

GoBobcats24

The Pelicans have legitimately 1 guy that you have to run off the 3pt line and that's the one we keep leaving open and going under on screens on

tnhornetsfan

My son just texted me and said there's more ball and player movement in pickup games at the rec center.

Eastley

He's not wrong

GoBobcats24

3 mins left in the first half and one single starter in

Down 11

Are we tanking?

TheDorkLord

this looks like a game we are planning to lose

GoBobcats24

Sexton with 13 mins so far

We actually did a really nice job making this close at the half somehow

It was obviously Charles Lee's Magical Lineups

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powellrmp

We’ll call those rotations, Chauncey billups-esque! Maybe they made sense to someone! (This message is brought to you by DraftKings!)

I’m being hyperbolic obviously, but that was a disastrous coaching half in my opinion

It felt like rotations from a rec church basketball league team.

Eastley

Oh that 1-2 pick and roll was so nice

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TheDorkLord

time to insert KJ

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Eastley

Kon is playing such a great game

Have we ever had a center that could block a shot like that? Not even sure that's a block Alinzo makes reaching over another player to do it.

GoBobcats24

Kalkbrenner has been absolutely incredible tonight

TheDorkLord

Kalk is impacting the game

GoBobcats24

Right now we have 2 rooks on the 1st team all rook and 1 in the 2nd

Kon calms us down offensively every time

TheDorkLord

no matter how bad the teams we've played, starting three rookies and doing this well is awesome

Eastley

GTA really gets them going

Mich_Mercer

Love how they called that carrry when players do it every position and it’s not called.

GoBobcats24

Anyway back to basketball

TheDorkLord

when it comes to politics people are stupid

Eastley

Their bench unit is really far better than I thought

Guys, keep the politics out of here

GoBobcats24

Sales tax is not politics just saying

Eastley

Has Liam shown anything defensively?

GoBobcats24

Lil bit

KJ!!!

TheDorkLord

KJ is atoning

Eastley

Couldn't remember

GoBobcats24

He has shown me a slight bit of defensive lateral quickness but very small sample

Eastley

Really frustrates me when we don't follow the play defensively on a rotation and no one covers on a miss so someone is wide open for a follow dunk. Think it's Miles more often than not but he's not the only one. So irksome

TheDorkLord

ok, decent 3rd

Eastley

14 assists is really not good.

TheDorkLord

ugh

tnhornetsfan

That should be an offensive foul

TheDorkLord

was that a BS call on Sion?

Eastley

Kalk!

TheDorkLord

old man

Collin shoots free throws like I play golf

GoBobcats24

Gotta swap Kon for Liam

Like do we need this win or not

Played him 35 mins in the blowout vs the Jazz

tnhornetsfan

Did the ref just basically call timeout for NO?

TheDorkLord

that was interesting

Eastley

I think Liam will be good some day, but it's not immediate. Even if he could bring the offense he showed in SL, he's just to much a minus, from what I'm seeing, defensively

GoBobcats24

I am guessing what happened was they waited too long to challenge so ref was signalling that it was only a timeout?

Liam looks like the game is too fast for him offensively, normal for a rook

We are just spoiled with our other 3

Eastley

Yeah, for sure, no shade

GoBobcats24

Also how about Queen showing up in the clutch

That guy has something IDK what yet

Eastley

I'm rooting for that guy

Not tonight but in general

He's going to take so much crap for the draft swap thing and that's not remotely on him

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GoBobcats24

That's on the Pels

Still dumb

Eastley

Miles makes plenty of his own mistakes on the court that he needs to stop stomping his feet adamantly when someone else makes a mistake

Colin losing partial teeth for the cause

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GeraldWallaceMVP

Let’s finish this out

GoBobcats24

Why can't we ever get a goaltend call

Another obvious one missed

Eastley

Battle of the low iq teams at the moment

And sadly on our part, it's the vets earning the honors

GeraldWallaceMVP

We have no offense right now

Mich_Mercer

Nope…. Just started taking turns playing one man bball. What happened to running plays??

Eastley

I like Kon getting the shot but we haven't been lighting up the nylon tonight from 3, I wish we just got a good 2

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Originally sent in Game 8: CHA at NOP
Mich_Mercer

Why do we do this? Why do we forget how to play in the 4th?

GoBobcats24

I'll take that look Kon got his whole career

But yeah been terrible down the stretch offensively

Whole damn team

Mich_Mercer

I knew it.

Water is wet.

We don’t deserve this win… but it will be an annoying game we should not lose.

TheDorkLord

we cannot inbounds the f'ing ball

GoBobcats24

Charles Lee once again out coached

We still have a chance to tie

But this time we will go for 2 lol

Mich_Mercer

Why in the hell can’t we ever get the balll in?

TheDorkLord

Miles?

GoBobcats24

Welp how did I know we had no plan for the final possession?

Mich_Mercer

Like every year… no matter the coach

TheDorkLord

we just gave this game away

GoBobcats24

I'm convinced we are tanking

Mich_Mercer

Our coaches cannot draw up an inbound play.

JFoster

This team is so…… disappointing

Mich_Mercer

It ridiculous

Good one miles

Wow

Eastley

Still stand very strong by my Miles disdain.

Icky_Thump

At least he plays

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Eastley

Just not very intelligently. And I really thought he was part that last year, which is a bummer

Mich_Mercer

Same Hornets.

GoBobcats24

This is the absolute worst start we could have had to the season by the way looking at the schedule

It gets tough quick

Mich_Mercer

A high school coach can draw up better inbound plays. Like… have the guys move around maybe?

Maybe Lamelo will stop being a brat and play the next game

GoBobcats24

Did you see the T Wolves game? Guy isn't being a brat, he literally limped through that entire game

Mich_Mercer

Yeah I watched it. He needs to suck it up. I’m tired of it.

TheDorkLord

I was telling my buddy today my daughter could coach this team better and she knows nothing about basketball

GoBobcats24

We play the Heat on Friday, first IST game, think we can avoid a 30 pt blowout to take us out of the IST in game one?

Maybe we will tank that too

TheDorkLord

"trust the process"

JFoster

I wanna give charles lee time. But he’s struggling.

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Mich_Mercer

I’ve been super patient with Lamelo… but I’m just over it.

Icky_Thump

These other guys are broken

We blamed med staff for years

maybe we need better scouts?

WTF

I changed my broken hornet logop from last season with hopes we'd see something different but I guess I have to bring it back

GoBobcats24

Ok, positive for a moment. I keep on having to remind myself Kon is 20 and won't hit his prime for like 5 years

I actually can't project his ceiling

Eastley

I think we are grading on a curve coming out of last year. Like Miles the leader, Mousa is a beast, Tre is 6th man material, etc. These were honest takes considering the cast around them but are any of our vet guys that scintillating? Heck, 3 rookies are routinely pantsing the vets out there. I'm cool with dumping a lot of what we have vet-wise and rolling with the new kids plus whatever comes in on the lottery truck in 2026.

GoBobcats24

I don't even know where to guess. He may actually be a Booker/Klay hybrid

Mich_Mercer

I still think some of the injury stuff is today’s game. Players are so soft… can’t be bothered to play if they are a little sore… or have a headache.

GoBobcats24

Also yeah there is like a 95% chance Miles gets traded before deadline

tnhornetsfan

I'm not opposed to that

Mich_Mercer

If he is one of the few guys who can stay on the court, we may need to hang onto him.

Eastley

I refuse to believe that our only choices are fragile or low ball iq.

GoBobcats24

Kon looking durable

Wasn't he durable in college too

Not much sample size

Mich_Mercer

I honestly feel like Kon is a guy who would beg to play hurt.

GoBobcats24

He already did in Summer League

Who does that

Bridges had several bonehead moments end of that game

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Mich_Mercer

How did we lose this game man…. lol

GoBobcats24

We lost this game in the first half

Mich_Mercer

Why can’t we set up the offense? Why can’t we ever get the ball in

GoBobcats24

Popped them out the gate and purposefully took our foot off the gas through lineups

Eastley

I can attribute about 4 ways miles threw it in the last 2 minutes

Mich_Mercer

Wil someone tell oiur coaches that we only have 5 seconds to get it in bounds, when they are drawing up plays?

GoBobcats24

That showboat attempt at the bounce pass on the fast break was an embarrassment

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Mich_Mercer

Anyway… hopefully Lamelo is back next game…. So he can play a few and then sit out again.

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@Eastley the Moose On the Loose shirt will be available exclusively at the Hornets Fan Shop

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I absolutely love that shirt.

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Games like this…at the end of the year, when it’s only a game or 2 margin to make the playoffs or play-in, these are the games that matter the most. Throwing away victories is what keeps teams in the lottery.

The game was lost on 2 dumb plays in particular. Maybe a 3rd, but that one wouldn’t have mattered. I think first one was a Miles rebound, we have numbers but didn’t need to be in a rush, he throws it to Collin who runs right into the defender and they lose the ball, they get an easy basket.

An even dumber play, Jordan Poole takes one of his typical dumb shots, we get the rebound, and Miles decides to try a full court bounce pass through traffic???
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The slowest person on the court is able to steal it, and throws it to Poole who’s was just getting up from his dumb shot, and gets a wide open layup. What’s the point of that pass, just dribble it up the court, you’re playing 5 on 4 now and can get an easy look. Those 2 plays cost us 4 points at minimum, but could’ve been an 8 point swing based on our advantage.

The last one was on Collin. The only thing that can beat you is a 3. Step back 3s should never be a game winner for defenders in that situation - they are no longer challenging shots, even for average shooters like Alvarado. You play defense like they are going to step back and just stick on them. If they drive past you, so be it, but they’re not getting a 3 off, and you get the ball back and at least are guaranteed overtime.

Anyway, if the team thought this was the type of game they could throw away, is this signaling their intention for the season? The next 5 games are at Miami, the Lakers, Milwaukee twice, then OKC. 3-10 is not the start of a successful season, they can’t afford to let winnable games pass by.

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I thought the 13.x seconds left, Miles driving up the court and hurryingup a terrible 3 as if there were 6-8s less on the clock was pretty inexcusable. But I stand by my sense that he doesn’t want to be 4th fiddle on this roster and that’s why we’re seeing some hero ball with Ball and Miller out.

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Oh yeah, granted there were a ton of mistakes that game. I love what Collin brings to the team, but this game, he was a space cadet too many times, dribbling into no mans land with Alvarado on his tail. Or Tre continuously using his off arm to push off on fadeaways. But those 2 fast break passes were the worst because, what the hell are you doing, and also they led directly to their points. These are rookie mistakes, not 7 year vet leader mistakes.

Oh, and not being able to inbound the ball. Classic Hornets.

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I hate when we even call timeouts at the end of games….. bc I know they will struggle to get the ball in. Pretty clear we can’t draw up a play….. for the past 6+ years it seems.

what are the chances Lamelo gets plays. Only 1 game this week and he’ll get a few days off, so he plays right? Or are we just so good… we can just beat teams without him?

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We’re 1 and 1 without him, might as well see if we can go 2 and 1, right?

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Oh yeah. For sure. That sounds fun. Haha