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Dell and Eric talking about the good thing that a player got back on track in a should never lose game feels like a throw back to Steve and Dell in the dog days of Bobcats lossiness.
So, are we fighting the wizards for worst team in the league. I hope not. Get it going guys.
For fucks sake… please let’s not do this again. I just want the Hornets circa Zo through Baron Davis. I will acquiesce the Crash Cats.
For Cliff to supposedly be a defensive coach, why are we so bad at defense? Can we just play straight up man please? Don’t help. Just stay connected to your guy because after two passes there’s inevitably a late close out on a guy shooting a wide open 3 and it seems like that’s happened for like the past 8 years.
Cliff teams have NEVER been good at defending the 3 thats for sure.
We were pretty much the same with JB as well. Plus inbounds plays at the end of games have always been awful.
I started the season optimistic, that has disappeared. Do you think the new owners will keep Clifford it is his contract year. Might not finish the season with him.
I think it’s more important that they replace Mitch in the GM role. If they let go of Clifford in a vacuum, i don’t trust that they can garner interest from top flight coaching candidates. And i don’t think we need a DAntoni type name, even a Charles Lee would be a win imo. But it has to start with a name as the GM that strikes the rest of the nba that we’re serious.
That makes sense. It will be interesting to see what changes the new owners make over the next 10 months.
So who are we getting with the second pick in the draft?
As much as I have not so silently advocated for the release of cliff, I 100% agree with this. It would be a poor decision to interrupt Miller and Williams development by changing coaching staff on the fly without a clear and solid long term upgrade.
Completely agree. The GM change has to come first and, ideally, relatively soon. I’d be ok keeping Cliff for the entire season, as long as the GM has an early offseason replacement in the works and simply focuses on infrastructure, the trade deadline and scouting.
I get that your post was in jest, but there are some fine prospects who would fit our core nicely in this coming draft. I’d be happy with missing the play-in and drafting in the top 5, but I absolutely want this to be the last year we’re doing so. That’s why the GM appointment needs to be made soon, so some of the easier win infrastructure improvements are ready for the off season and we can hit the ground running with a new HC and improved training/S&C facilities.
My first thoughts while watching this game… are we allowed to ever watch our team play good basketball? Like ever? Like, whats it like to just be able to sit and enjoy a stretch of entertaining ball, feeling confident in the skills and execution of simple plays. To feel that the team has a good chance to win.
I enjoy good defense, good offense. Even good free throw routines. I don’t even need every game to be a win. I’d take every other game as a win at this point.
But to feel miserable from the jump, then to feel stupid for feeling miserable. Then feeling hope because they’ve finally woken up and get back in the game…only to get crushed by another run because of stupidity. Doesn’t matter the coaches, the players, the GM’s, the owners, the same feelings happen every time except maybe 3 times the last 25 years.
I know the easy solution is to be able to walk away. But basketball is my favorite sport by far, I’m a junkie. I like the pros better than the college game. And I only like my local team, don’t care about anybody else.
I don’t even need a championship at this point. Just give me some nice, average Pacers or Hawks basketball every year, at least they win a playoff series every few years. They even are able to achieve consecutive winning seasons sometimes. What’s that Hornets and Panthers? C-O-N-S-E-C-U-T-I-V-E.
The 3 point defense is inexcusable. I play pickup ball now in my old age, when someone is cooking from 3, I stay attached to them. Chasing them around every screen, denying an easy catch in rhythm, and never, ever, ever, ever, ever helping off of him to cover a driver. Take all the contested layups you want, you’re not going to get easy 3s.
But no, our professional team with professional coaches don’t understand this simple concept. The 3s actually seemed to get more wide open as the game wound down. Switch every pick, go over screens, don’t help, use your peripheral vision to keep your eye on the ball and man, don’t get too far into the lane on the back side. Just stop fucking sagging into the lane, they are not going to shoot inside, they’re hunting for the open 3.
And of course all the tricks teams use to get open 3s on us, we don’t know how to ever get a wide open look. Every shot we take is contested whether it’s in the lane or from 3. I’m a long leash kinda guy, but I’ve already read the Cliff story a few years ago, it never improves. Volume 1, Volume 2, Volume 3, its the same stupid story every time.
You have already forgotten that this was what season 3 and 4 with JB were that.
If it helps I read this twice
once as Chris Farley doing this monologue from Tommy Boy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WF_UqHQpx0
and a second time as Clark Griswald https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXkMaZz5Mo8
Both made me laugh
Haha, well the good news is I’m more in the Griswald mode of acceptance. The look he has in his eyes is the same look I have watching another open 3 go in. I don’t know if I’ll reach Farley, thats probably in another few years of this mess after the meteor hits, leaving us the only team left in the NBA, and still not being able to win.
True, but that was 10 years ago, or feels something like that. But yeah, year 4 was one of the 3 seasons in the last 25 years I felt good about. But it also then reinforced that every time we finally have a good year, the curse of non consecutivity always hits.
The other great years was the Crash and Jax playoff season, Larry decided to blow it up, before he imploded in self-hate the next year.
The Kemba/Big Al/McBob season was awesome. Did we keep that team together? Of course not, back to purgatory we go.
Then the JB years, we at least could score finally. But the aftermath is where we are again.
The last time the Hornets had consecutive winning seasons was…the 2000-02 seasons. Was @GeraldWallaceMVP even born by then?