2025 Draft Discussion (1st round - Low Lottery Pick)

Posted before. I’m glad somebody had me look up McNeely’s numbers back then.

Traditional non-shooting stats.

Per 100 possessions played:

Knueppel
7.9 rebounds, 5.4 assists, 2.0 steals, 0.3 blocks

McNeely
11.5 rebounds, 4.4 assists, 1.4 steals, 0.4 blocks

Edgecomb
10.4 rebounds, 6.0 assists, 3.8 steals, 1.1 blocks

Tre J.
3.1 rebounds, 2.7 assists, 0.9 steals, 0.3 blocks

Bailey
12.4 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 1.7 steals, 2.2 blocks

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Eastley

Less that 4 hours to know what our fortunes are in the 2025 Draft (first round at least). Hard to not be excited to get there.

Mich_Mercer

I just hope we don’t draft a guy we can get later in the draft.

I’m an insane person, would find it hard to pass on the upside of Ace. Definitely doesn’t seem like the guy for us though.

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powellrmp

I’m not sure what I’ll do if we draft Maluach. I don’t think I can handle that

dnbman

IF YOU'RE READY TO BE DISAPPOINTED MAKE SOME NOISE!!!

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powellrmp

To quote Michael Scott from the office, “no doubt about it, I am ready to get hurt again”

dnbman

Is Fubo the only way to watch it online without a cable package?

GoBobcats24

Man I hope we don't screw up tonight

Absolutely nobody knows what we are going to do. I personally think we are going to draft one of Ace or VJ, whoever is there. UNLESS they get blown away by a crazy offer. We went for the high upside play last year, why wouldn't we do that again

TheDorkLord

ESPN broadcast starts off talking about us as one of the teams fielding calls to move down…

Chef

There's lots of chatter out there. Wouldn't hate a deal with Washington. There is zero chance Washington can create an environment for ace to flourish and develop.

spectre

It better be something greater than dropping a few spots for a couple of 2nds

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Chef

6 + 18 + sarr for 4 + 33 + mark

dnbman

Happening or what you'd like to see?

Chef

I know nothing. I could handle that

powellrmp

If we had to trade New Orleans that involved getting herb jones and pick 7, or Brooklyn for pick 8 and cam Johnson. Which do you pick. I’d pick herb

spectre

Same

cltblkhscoach

Consistently the best night for Charlotte Hornets fans for 21 years running, let's go

TheDorkLord

I told a friend today this was my most hopeful night of the year… then I had to explain. lol

Chef

Yes this is our Superbowl. Unfortunately we usually play the role of the bills

TheDorkLord

bingo

Mich_Mercer

I’ll be so stoked with Ace man… which will make me so disappointed if he’s there and we pass.

What will happen, we’ll draft him and then trade him pretty soon after… just to bum me out.

woodsy23

I still think Sixers will trade down

For someone who’s high on Ace

QC_Thundercats

Well the good new is, we pick high enough where we're not the designated commercial break for the draft…

Or maybe they'll still try to squeeze in a quick fandual ad…

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Mich_Mercer

Oh no… they’ll put a commercial in after the 3rd pick. No doubt.

Chef

I kinda agree woodsy. Vj just sorta fits their roster. Not a slam dunk.

And they will definitely go to commercial qc

powellrmp

I’m on vacation at the beach this week with my in laws. If the pick is Maluach I think I’m going to walk straight into the ocean without saying a word. Just walk out the door, right into the water.

Or just “sorry, I have to go think about things”

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Mich_Mercer

What beach man? Haha

I’m in Wilmington, didn’t know if you were close.

powellrmp

I’m from Wilmington! I’m in NJ unfortunately

Mich_Mercer

Wait… you live in Wilmington now???

powellrmp

Nah I grew up in Wilmington. I’m in chapel hill

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QC_Thundercats

Y'all should step outside and make loud whale noises when we pick, maybe you'll hear each other

powellrmp

If Maluach is the pick, if he listens closely enough he just might hear me from several states away

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Eastley

If we pick Maluach, I will walk outside and pray that I am struck in this lightening storm

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spectre

Hahahaj!

dnbman

"… but one thing was clear: the whales were very sad."

Chef

Unfortunately

TheDorkLord

"I wish I could speak whale"

powellrmp

You don’t want to hear what I’d be saying in whale

Mich_Mercer

I feel like I’m the only Hornets fan in eastern NC. lol

TheDorkLord

I found one other Hornets fan in Winston-Salem, then he moved to High Point

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woodsy23

JB interviewing with the Knicks

Mich_Mercer

Happy for him. Hope he gets it.

Then we trade Mark for a second round pick. Hahaha

Eastley

who do you guys think is the least likely Hornet at 7:54pm to still be a Hornet by 10pm?

Mich_Mercer

Idk…. I feel we won’t trade anyone. But maybe Josh Green with Mark?

I do not think we should trade Mark unless it’s an amazing offer.

TheDorkLord

NSJ

Mich_Mercer

I just feel the value of all of our guys is lower than it should be.

I just hope we don’t do something stupid.

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TheDorkLord

I agree, if Mark is moved it better be an awesome haul

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Mich_Mercer

I see no reason to trade him just bc we did it last year.

My order that I want: Ace, VJ, Trey, Kon

GoBobcats24

We are on the same page

Mich_Mercer

Which means… we aren’t drafting any of those guys. Haha

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woodsy23

This is where I’m at

GoBobcats24

Miles is the one I am really watching

And Okogie because of contract situation

Mich_Mercer

I feel like his value is still so low and he was the one guy we could actually depend on last year.

GoBobcats24

We are going to cut him before the 6/30 deadline

Mich_Mercer

Okogie really fit so well with us. He was a good player when he played those few games

GoBobcats24

If we trade down it better be an amazing package

I agree on Okogie, maybe we can sign him back for less per year? He is $8.25 right now

Eastley

If we say Jordan's name 3 times, does that mean we end up drafting a 35 year old Naismith winner?

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GoBobcats24

I will say one thing about the way Ace's people are handling this draft. He has been the talk of the last week and if you didn't know who he was, you do now. Not saying it was worth it but just an observation

woodsy23

Or a blank cheque to the spurs for Dylan Harper

Mich_Mercer

Imagine the spurs pass on Harper and he falls to us? That can happen right?

Eastley

no way he would get past Morey

TheDorkLord

Let's get ready to rumble

Mich_Mercer

Crazy they give the Mavs 5 minutes here. Shouldn’t they be ready? Haha

TheDorkLord

they have to think about it lol

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Eastley

I'd have tackled him with the envelope saying it's flagg

Mich_Mercer

Hornets have to take the best player… but I know they won’t.

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Eastley

Shams saying that Philly is set at #3, we and Utah are still taking calls

woodsy23

Carrying on my 100% record of being wrong on draft night

TheDorkLord

Why do they have a headquarters, LOL… it should just be a party room

Eastley

Why does Marty Smith look like a JibJab video?

GoBobcats24

Marty Smith is pumped up

Thats my guy, NASCAR represent

Betting markets have been interesting to watch. Ace Bailey was +475 45 mins ago to go 4th and he was +190 to go 4th 15 mins ago

Mich_Mercer

They’ll pick him and trade him to rip my heart out.

Eastley

If they do that, as long as they don't trade him for Maluach

Damn, they picked Coop, that's crazy - Nico doing something un-insane

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Mich_Mercer

They are 100% taking a commercial break after 3.

GoBobcats24

Yeah doesn't mean we would keep him

TheDorkLord

I bet we could get 5 2nds for him

GoBobcats24

Maybe 6!

I just feel like we would get hosed in any trade so we might as well keep him lol

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Mich_Mercer

I love trading a star player on draft night.

Eastley

We are good at that. Shai says hi!

Mich_Mercer

It’ll be for a late lottery pick and a 2nd

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GoBobcats24

I am ready for disappointment

Idk why

It just doesn't feel like we are going to do it

Mich_Mercer

Life as a Hornets fan… me too.

GoBobcats24

This is a no brainer IMO

Mich_Mercer

The pick is Kon at 4. I can feel it. It’s fine……

GoBobcats24

This guy has McGrady And Carmelo vibes

Eastley

Ok Hornets, break our hearts, pick a punter

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Mich_Mercer

Tall goofy white dude incoming.

TheDorkLord

the french guy

Eastley

Ok, here's where the draft starts

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GeraldWallaceMVP

Philly please take Ace

Mich_Mercer

Yeah… I kind of feel this way bc I don’t think we’ll pass on VJ. I’m scared we’d pass on Ace.

QC_Thundercats

Geez, no creativity spurs. Why not try being different and getting a Maluach

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cltblkhscoach

As expected, now let's go

Mich_Mercer

We must take Ace or VJ… whoever is there. Let’s not make this hard

Eastley

Ace, Kon, Tre, or VJ - any one is fine by me

GoBobcats24

I would be cool with everyone but Kon at 4. If we take Kon I hope it is as a result of trading back

GeraldWallaceMVP

Long as we get one of Ace, Kon, VJ or Tre I’ll leave tonight happy

Mich_Mercer

That’s 100% how I feel. I really don’t think we are a good enough team to trade back though. We need true talent

TheDorkLord

Can we draft Dylan's Mom?

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Eastley

Ron Jr. looks a lot like his dad

Always really loved Ron Harper

Mich_Mercer

Hope you guys are ready for the commercial after this pick.

Tin foil hate… the NBA gave us the 4th pick so they could use their commercial break after 3.

Edgecomb would look good in Hornets colors.

Eastley

damnit

TheDorkLord

oh well

dnbman

Well, kids… here we go.

TheDorkLord

trade incoming

Mich_Mercer

Time to screw this up. Take our man Kon… here we go

ncborn

Damn they took VJ

GeraldWallaceMVP

Oof

cltblkhscoach

All right man here we go

Eastley

I'd take Kon at this point

QC_Thundercats

Loud whale noises

ncborn

Damn!

Mich_Mercer

Please take Ace… please…

ncborn

Yes take Ace

Mich_Mercer

Please!!

It’s Kon. We all know it

GeraldWallaceMVP

Tbh I feel like if Ace didnt tank his stock Philly would’ve taken him

ncborn

This is crazy

Eastley

maybe a new era for the hornets if we skip the commercial break

ncborn

Tre or Ace

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Mich_Mercer

I can’t beelieve it.

powellrmp

Ugh

GeraldWallaceMVP

It’s going to be Kon 100%

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Mich_Mercer

They’ll take the break during our pick’ haha

ncborn

Ace has a higher upside than VJ

powellrmp

I’m not a Kon man, but I’ll take him

Eastley

he seems to hit all the Hornets high spots

he == Kon

Mich_Mercer

He has the highest upside in the draft maybe.

GeraldWallaceMVP

Ace could be the best player in the draft, he could also be out the league in 4 years

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TheDorkLord

Ace, Tre, Kon

Mich_Mercer

Hornets have to pick him for that reason. Swing for the fences

GeraldWallaceMVP

If we pick him, I hope we trade Miles

Mich_Mercer

VJ has a nice family man…

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Eastley

considering how often we pick "out of the league in 4 years" guys, I have a concern with picks adjacent to that. For that, I am team Kon

ncborn

We might be negotiating for a trade

powellrmp

Ace wants to be a shooting guard

He and his agents made them list him as a guard

Ace needs to be a stretch PF, and he doesn’t want to

ncborn

Ace has already lost money

GeraldWallaceMVP

Tbh Melo was kinda a high upside high risk pick and he’s worked out

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ncborn

We need a PF

Mich_Mercer

We can put Ace there.

powellrmp

You don’t believe in Salaun?!??

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Chef

Espn is the worst. My gosh this is television?

Mich_Mercer

Tijan is then next Gianis. We all know this.

spectre

Pick is in

GeraldWallaceMVP

Chef will lose his mind if we have LaMelo and Ace

Eastley

Noah, Kai, Book, Frank

Icky_Thump

It's Kon

And I'm out

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spectre

Prbly right behind you

ncborn

The glue guy? Nooo….

Mich_Mercer

Damnit…

Yay

Eastley

Yes, I'll take it

Icky_Thump

Enjoy the Hornets guys

TheDorkLord

fuck, but we should have traded down to do this

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Icky_Thump

I'm gone

FUCK THIS TEAM

Mich_Mercer

I’m laughing… :rofl:

Chef

Charlotte is the tapioca pudding of draft day trades.

Mich_Mercer

It’s all I can do

Icky_Thump

God we're the worst

ncborn

Come on man

Eastley

It's a good pick guys

Icky_Thump

WE ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST

GoBobcats24

Lol goodnight

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Mich_Mercer

I’d be cool if we traded down for him.

cltblkhscoach

Smh man I tell you

Icky_Thump

I hope you're finally out on your seats bro… hate it for anyone

Chef

Trade with Washington and take him at 6

Icky_Thump

Right? Couldn't even trade?

spectre

I’d rather the couple 2nds on a trade back no one else was taking him

TheDorkLord

after I cray for a few minutes I will be a big Kon fan

Mich_Mercer

He just seems like such a boring pick

TheDorkLord

cry

cltblkhscoach

If we draft Dalton Knecht last year we don't even need this

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Icky_Thump

We are NOT good enough for his low ceiling bullshit

Mich_Mercer

I’ll warm up to him… but man… if Ace ends up being what he can be… this will be so sad

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cltblkhscoach

@Icky_Thump I told my rep I'd call him tomorrow based on what we did tonight

Not going to be a fun call

Icky_Thump

I'm out… I'll miss you guys but I'm done 100%

spectre

How underwhelming. This is the life of a Charlotte fan

powellrmp

We’ll see. I’m not mad at it.

TheDorkLord

At least I get to say nipple a lot

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Eastley

Does little bro have a ring on from a Cracker Jack box?

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Mich_Mercer

At least we have a ball and a nipple?

TheDorkLord

now we need to trade for another ball lol

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Mich_Mercer

Let’s go get Dick too.

This was such a deflating pick for me… so many options and…… :(

Icky_Thump

All love fellas. It really has been a journey of hope and crushed dreams

<3

cltblkhscoach

You know, like you said Mich, so many options to do something transformational

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Eastley

There's little doubt that Ace might be incredible, but I am not sure that could happen with us. Could he become that with an org with more institutional girding? Yes. But we're not it

cltblkhscoach

Same old boring ass stupid shit

Eastley

and… thankfully, we did not pick Maluach

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ncborn

Yeah that would have been worse

dnbman

So, feelings aside, what do we project from him? Outside shooting glue guy at SG?

GoBobcats24

Guys it's a good pick! We could have gotten Kon at 10 but its a good pick! Lol

We drafted a role player in a draft with multiple superstars

TheDorkLord

if we took him I wanted him at 6 with a nice trade

Eastley

@dnbman do you have a sub to The Athletic? The write up on Kon by Sam is really in depth

dnbman

do not

GoBobcats24

And gifted Ace to the Jazz

Sam Vecenie is a hack so anything he says should be taken with a grain of salt

cltblkhscoach

Watch Utah make a damn trade with Ainge over there

Eastley

he'll "almost" make a trade

cltblkhscoach

@Eastley I have an athletic sub

Eastley

Check out the Draft Guide, the write up on Kon is very comprehensive

cltblkhscoach

I'll look it up and put it in the Kneuppel thread I guess

ncborn

Ace DOES NOT want to be in Utah

TheDorkLord

it just feels like we took the most boring pick… and you're right Ace did not want to go to Utah

powellrmp

No ceilings does a great job with draft write ups

ncborn

The thing w Kon is that people think he can also play PG

GoBobcats24

He was among the bottom 5 in lane agility test at the combine

TheDorkLord

Kon for rookie of the year, it would be the most un hornet thing ever. Fantasy land, he comes on and is better than Flag… lol

Eastley

That was Givony's story from pre-season at Duke. He was there to get intel on Flagg and coach said to watch Kon, ended up lighting up everyone in the scrimmage, including Flagg

dnbman

What I have learned about draft prospects is that they ALL can play pg.

ncborn

Well I’m trying to make myself feel better

TheDorkLord

to make myself feel better, I just remember how he played when Flagg was injured

Eastley

Listen to the Hoop Collective pod with Givony from maybe yesterday, it has that vignette when they were talking about the top of the draft

dnbman

Did the FO watch TJ McConnell for that five minutes of the NBA finals and think "we gotta get one of those guys!"

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spectre

Well my opinion can only improve so I guess there’s that going for him

woodsy23

Suuuurely there’s a trade back there that still sees us land Kon

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TheDorkLord

next stop… summer league

Mich_Mercer

I’m hoping we get back in the first round somehow…. To help with my disappointment

GoBobcats24

Welp guys when Lamelo and Brandon want out at least we have Kon

Mich_Mercer

Dude… don’t say these things. Kon seems like a great fit on a good team… but not for us. Let’s just hope he turns into Luka on offense….

GoBobcats24

Sorry I am pissed

Eastley

Not from what most draft folks were projecting, they had Ace, Kon, and Tre all in that Tier 3. In a couple, VJ was lumped into Tier 2 with Dylan but thought most had him in Tier 3

GoBobcats24

All the rumors of trading back and we do that

ncborn

Anyway Kon can fit … here’s to looking to the 2nd round…maybe tomorrow will be special

GoBobcats24

Welp lets hope everyone 5th on back sucks

I just don't see an all star in our pick

And if you can't imagine your 4th pick being an all star in this type of draft, it kinda hurts

woodsy23

I’m sure he’ll be solid but his potential ceiling scares me

dnbman

I don't mind that he's and "elite shooter." I have always wanted one of those.

GoBobcats24

He is a good shooter

And more than that

So it isn't a whiff unless he loses his shot lol

QC_Thundercats

I mean, Kon is fine. He is a good player. But if you want glue, trade back. High picks are for star swings, not glue.

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Mich_Mercer

Hornets culture man…culture

cltblkhscoach

Tre Johnson will kill us for the next 4 years

Mich_Mercer

I would have been
Much happier with Trey Johnson… why didn’t we just take him.

GoBobcats24

Because we drafted fit instead of BPA

woodsy23

Fit?

GoBobcats24

It always works out well

TheDorkLord

AC/DC, great comment

Mich_Mercer

I’m deflated. Going to turn this off I think.

TheDorkLord

Bilas is so much better than some of these other guys on ESPN

Eastley

Knueppel is very highly regarded by NBA teams, and it shouldn’t surprise anyone to see him be selected in the top five. He projects to be valuable early with his ability to shoot, make decisions, process what’s happening around him spatially and play with the ball in his hands. I get that his game doesn’t look all that sexy, and in general he does not look like a top-five pick. But NBA teams are enamored with how well-rounded his game is. He does just about everything well and was a good defender this year at Duke despite his relatively slow feet. He’s strong through his chest and does a great job using angles to feed his man into where the help is if he needs it. Knueppel’s upside is something in the vein of Desmond Bane, whom the Memphis Grizzlies just traded for four first-round picks for all the reasons discussed above.

The Hornets have also had discussions moving both up and down the board here from No. 4, so don’t be surprised if they move this pick to either try to lock in the player they want or to continue to gather assets. If they are unable to get Edgecombe and decide that their guy is Knueppel, a trade down is something that multiple NBA sources have noted is a possibility, as there could be a couple of teams looking to jump Washington, Utah or Brooklyn to get Ace Bailey. If it’s not Knueppel and they stay at No. 4, my read is that the Hornets’ most likely option would be Johnson.

GoBobcats24

"In general he does not look like a top 5 pick" is always encouraging

We drafted a smaller, much less athletic thaddeus young?

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Chef

Desmond bane. Great.

GoBobcats24

Can you envision us getting 3 1sts for Kon in the future?

That is a 40% 3pt shooter*

Lol I think if he turns in to Desmond Bane we will be alright

Chef

9 2nds

GoBobcats24

But still I hope Bailey isn't Duranty

powellrmp

I don’t think you’ll have to worry about that.

Chef

Tre may be really good. I get not drafting ace but I feel they missed a trade

GoBobcats24

I agree, trade back and take Kon later

That is generally what I am pissed about. Our last chance to get a star for the forseeable future barring luck with picks that aren't ours and we go safe

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QC_Thundercats

Right. Intel said Washington really wanted ace. We can’t have had Kon so much higher than Tre to not make that easy deal, then take whichever one is there

Eastley

Knueppel is an elite shooter with his touch and mechanics. Accurate from all over the court and from a variety of different situations and footworks. All the touch indicators are great. Hit 91.4 percent of his free throws to go with 40.6 percent of his 3s as a freshman. Hit 43.3 percent off the catch from 3. Made 43.2 percent of his midrange pull-ups.

That's a bullet from the Draft Guide - cannot copy from it as it's protected but thought that was food for thought on the shooting being a bit more than good.

QC_Thundercats

Anybody at the hornets draft party? If hugo
Hung his head after Miller, he must’ve jumped off the catwalk onto center court.

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cltblkhscoach

They had it at some restaurant because of the arena construction

Eastley

Wow on Demin going 8th

QC_Thundercats

Oh, right. How convenient.

dnbman

So the general consensus is that he'll be a good player for us (likely day 1 starter) but that we just didn't get the value we might have out of the 4th pick?

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cltblkhscoach

The only thing I can think of is if they knew Kon and Tre would be gone before 8 they didn't want to risk it

Eastley

I think that's exactly it. And if a lot of these draft guys are right, a lot of scouts saw Kon, Tre, Ace, and VJ as pick-em, then you don't have leverage until all of those guys minus one are picked

cltblkhscoach

Which I mean, I can understand, but still…

dnbman

Go Cocks!

cltblkhscoach

TRADE!

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Eastley

I love him, truly do. Wish him all the best in the world. Just not a fit on our roster

GeraldWallaceMVP

woah

GeraldWallaceMVP

we're back

dnbman

Maybe another trade coming with one of our seconds and that first?

Eastley

I like that for us

cltblkhscoach

Now they can't rescind this shit too right

Eastley

I don't like that for Maluach considering he just got ostensibly picked by the Suns.

cltblkhscoach

2 firsts, and who knows what Phoenix will look like in 2029

GeraldWallaceMVP

we certainly are building a stash of first round picks

cltblkhscoach

Wonder if there's protection on that

dnbman

Is Maxime Raynaud a target?

GeraldWallaceMVP

didnt we already have a pick from the suns for 2028?

Eastley

I hope so. Esp. since we dealt Mark and free up that slot

Mich_Mercer

So Mark is gone… for the 29th pick and a 2029 first…. Cool… I’m bummed with that too.

cltblkhscoach

Apparently the Phoenix 2029 first is the least favorable between Cleveland, Utah, & Minnesota

QC_Thundercats

Mark and nick reunited. I guess phoenix doesn’t watch hornets basketball

cltblkhscoach

So 2 late 1sts

Mich_Mercer

So we traded 2 lottery picks for 3 late first. Cool

TheDorkLord

damn

Eastley

and Micic and Cody

dnbman

I'm a look on the bright side kind of person in general, but holy crap have we botched some draft picks.

[excluding today; jury is still out.]

Eastley

I feel Mark was a good pick - the LAL crap really fucked us and Mark up. This was inevitible

TheDorkLord

goes back to we should have kept Jane Duran

GeraldWallaceMVP

does this open some cap for us?

TheDorkLord

Jalen

dnbman

I guess the trade of Duran is what I had on my mind. Two picks right there and doesn't appear we're getting a ton of value out of them.

Chef

What does 29 +33 + 34 get. They could go get jaku

powellrmp

I love Cedric coward to Portland

Chef

Or queen

GoBobcats24

Gosh that is tough for Mark but it was that or try to dangle him at the deadline

cltblkhscoach

Portland is trading that somewhere I forgot where

powellrmp

I’m super high on coward. Guy is going to be great

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GoBobcats24

Grizzlies

cltblkhscoach

Thanks

GeraldWallaceMVP

No way we take 3 guys tonight right, we gotta be trading up

GoBobcats24

Welp now we have no future center

powellrmp

Word!!! That’s even better for Memphis! A+ fit with bane gone

dnbman

I liked Mark, I'm just not so sure about what we got for him in terms of the draft value for the pick we used on him.

GoBobcats24

Thanks Lakers!

Good thing we traded Duren

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Mich_Mercer

Don’t want too many tough players

Seems we traded mark just to trade him.

GoBobcats24

Man I am surprisingly negative tonight I am normally the opposite

GeraldWallaceMVP

Tbh I wanted to run it back with Mark but I'm not too upset.

cltblkhscoach

Nurk will start this year and Moussa backs him up. Hopefully we can keep a veteran big guy

powellrmp

Well let’s see what we do with 29 33 34. I hope we trade up and get Nique Clifford or Rasheer Fleming

Chef

Mark was a used mattress. Not a dirty hotel mattress just one that left the store and was returned. Auto 60% off

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GoBobcats24

Nurk is not an NBA starting center at this point

dnbman

Have to believe there's someone they covet at the end of the first.

GoBobcats24

So we have 0 starters

GeraldWallaceMVP

Moussa

it's your time to shine

powellrmp

He had to be traded. It was unavoidable. Shit situation thanks to the lakers. There was not going to be an ideal outcome with mark. Sigh.

cltblkhscoach

We just need someone big and tough to set screens, rebound, and give a little bit of post scoring for now

powellrmp

I mean, shit. Mark could get injured again and then we get nothing

Mich_Mercer

We could have at least drafted Ace to not make this night feel awful.

GoBobcats24

We settled on the Mark trade, we must have felt that was the best we can get

TheDorkLord

I just keep having more reasons to hate the Lakers. I grew up as a Celtics guy before we got a team… so the hate is strong

dnbman

Night ain't over. Maybe there's more.

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Mich_Mercer

So the Suns know hard Richards and Mark. Haha

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powellrmp

I’m oddly not upset tonight. Kon will be good. A good secondary facilitator on the team other than Melo.

GeraldWallaceMVP

I preferred Ace to Kon but I still think Kon will be a good player for us.

Eastley

Paging Maxime, paging Maxime Raynaud to the red courtesy phone

GeraldWallaceMVP

Could Kon become a like Desmond Bane type player

GoBobcats24

So we need Cleveland, Utah and Minny to suck in 2029

dnbman

I wonder if there's stipulations if those picks get traded?

GeraldWallaceMVP

what year is the other suns pick we got

GoBobcats24

2031 I think

Mich_Mercer

2029?

Eastley

Not necessarily, we just have draft capital that we can use in trade. Probably much more valuable that way than as a pick

GeraldWallaceMVP

look at it this way

we have enough picks to realistically offer a trade for anyone who comes available

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Eastley

let's just hope we can stay healthy, improve organically, and have a reason to make such a trade

dnbman

As we start to get into needs picks, what you want besides center?

Mich_Mercer

And at least with have Kon too… what a night. It’s going to be a rough year not having a center again.

GoBobcats24

Nevermind 2031 was the 2nd

tnhornetsfan

Just caught up. Pleased with Kon. Just saw the mark trade. Waiting on PHX to rescind it

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Mich_Mercer

Then we just cut Mark… and get nothing. That would be our luck. Haha

powellrmp

Exactly. It would be our luck that mark get injured and then we get nothing lol

Chef

Atl gets a 2026 unprotected 1st from NO. NO is just dumb

cltblkhscoach

Joe Dumars trying to get fired lol

Eastley

As much as I'd love Maxime, I would be over the moon if we grabbed Flemming at 29 but he won't be there at 29.

powellrmp

Well, something we strongly agree on. But there’s not way Fleming drops to 29. 0% it saddens me to say

GoBobcats24

Teams are getting multiple firsts moving from 13 to 23, we look dumb IMO

Most favorable of NO and MIL

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Chef

Unprotected though?

GoBobcats24

Yes, if MIL is #1 and NO is #2 they get #1 pick

So moving from 4-8 we should have been able to get multiple high level future firsts

Chef

That is insane. Good gosh.

Eastley

but if you move back from 4 to 8 and get those picks but don't get anyone you want in this draft, what's the point?

but … can we consolidate 33 and 29 to get to mid 20s?

powellrmp

I can’t imagine Fleming going past 20-22. Yeah maybe we can package 29 and 33

dnbman

How is it 9:41 and we're only on pick 14?

GoBobcats24

They are going way past 5 mins per pick

Chef

This broadcast somehow makes it feel like 2a

Eastley

What I think we can assume is that it's low likelihood we come out of tomorrow with 4 draft picks on our roster

powellrmp

Nique Clifford I want even more than Fleming. But with kon that’s not going to happen

Eastley

Not if you go by the "can't have enough wings" mantra

powellrmp

Oh I’m absolutely good with that. I wonder if the hornets would subscribe to that

dnbman

Yeah, same.

Chef

Hornets desperately need a true of like siakim

Pf

dnbman

Probably pretty realistic we swap a few spots for one of those Brooklyn picks.

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TheDorkLord

I'm going to be right, we are going to end up with another French guy

Eastley

Ah, but which one?

TheDorkLord

that is the question

Eastley

It is A question :)

I feel better that Queen is going to NOP instead of ATL. He seems like the kind of player that would nuke us every single game even when they had half their roster out with the Hornets flu

Wait, what! https://x.com/JakeLFischer/status/1938049850769043869

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Chef

:rofl:

Eastley

8.1M option exercised? Can we Exorcise him from the team immediately please dear lord?

TheDorkLord

sigh

dnbman

If true, fascinating

Was that to make salaries work?

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Eastley

But man, anyone but him anywhere near where a coach could put him into a game

TheDorkLord

that was my guess

Mich_Mercer

This is great. What a night. Welcome back Micic.

powellrmp

What the fuck

Mich_Mercer

No need to resign Mann now… we are al set . Haha

dnbman

Wonder if we reroute Micic.

Eastley

To the bar?

and not a salad bar from the looks of it

Mich_Mercer

Why couldn’t we bring back Malik Monk instead??

powellrmp

I wonder if they’re going to bring back Mann

Mich_Mercer

They freaking better

powellrmp

With Micic back

TheDorkLord

we better bring back Mann

Mich_Mercer

Unless we arre trading for monk… which I know is happening bc I said it was

powellrmp

Sorber to OKC is great

Eastley

I did get skeeved out that he was cleared as healthy right ahead of free agency ;)

but his QO is like 5-6M so he could be cheap to retain and his lack of playing consistency could mean he isn't likely to fetch bigger offers as a RFA

Chef

Need to trade up for a melo injury fill in

Mich_Mercer

I feel like we are repeating last year with lesss talent now.

powellrmp

Was also sort of hoping the hornets would draft sorber. I like the kid

TheDorkLord

Sorber would have been a good trade up to get

dnbman

Going to set my alarm for 11:30 pm to hopefully be about the 20th pick.

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Mich_Mercer

Anytime I turn the draft off, something happens for us

And it just keeps getting worse

powellrmp

Jakucionis is still there

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Eastley

I could get over my WFU rejection by Jaku if we drafted him

dnbman

That was a super dark horse 4th pick option, right?

powellrmp

Yeah sorber would’ve been great

Chef

They need to get jaku

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powellrmp

I had sorber 17 on my board

Eastley

Portland you sneaky minx you

GoBobcats24

Woops I didn't realize that was a spoiler

TheDorkLord

no spoilers… lol

GoBobcats24

Sry damn Brett Siegal evidently is on top of his shit

Eastley

I think this could be a fun pick for PDX

GoBobcats24

Yeah I like it. We saw Hansen in summer league

powellrmp

He had a crazy jump. A few months ago maybe a mid to late 2nd rounder all the way up to pick 16

Eastley

Good for him.

powellrmp

It’s a reach, but I get it. A lot to like from Yang

That would’ve been cool to get Yang at 29. Cool prospect

Eastley

Ok, there's one Frenchman off the board to assuage the fears of DorkLord

TheDorkLord

there goes my french pick

so far so good

powellrmp

I had Beringer at 20

Beringer will be better than Maluach. I’d put $20 on that

Chef

So could have possibly had tre/kon at 6 and jaku at 18

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Eastley

Just super sayin - if they were set on Kon, they wouldn't want to let him possibly go if they had him in front of them

Chef

I know but you have to forgive me if I doubt their ability to pick basketball players

Jussayin

Eastley

You just have to snake the Penda / Traore pick and roll

tnhornetsfan

No way we pick 4 players, right? Let's get a deal done Jeff

dnbman

is it jaw coo or jay coo or something else?

Eastley

The planet Rey was from?

powellrmp

Give me Nique and/or Fleming. If we get one of them I will be so thrilled

Eastley

That would be pretty badass haul for this draft IMO

dnbman

nerd

Eastley

Most of us Wake Forest fans likely pronounce it Jackass

dnbman

we watch basketball and write our own essays.

Eastley

just sayin' (again) if you committed to a school, tell them if you are backing out and have already signed your commitment letter with Illinois.

powellrmp

Our roster and locker room could use some adults

lol

I miss a good wake team.

dnbman

serious note: does Micic have ANY value? Any chance we reroute him or is that dead weight destined to be cut?

Eastley

He's just salary fill for that trade and likely getting bought out. He has a contract pending with Olympiacos IIRC

powellrmp

Micic has my own emotional and sentimental value. I love Micic and I’m in the fan club

dnbman

I was unaware of the lore.

powellrmp

But Micic was on the Luka “weight” training plan

Eastley

without any other Luka attribute

dnbman

Wouldn't be surprised if they both owned jorts.

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powellrmp

And by weight, I mean he looked pretty chonky. And by chonky, I mean fat. Not to be confused with phat.

Chef

And fanny packs

powellrmp

Can we bring back the word “phat”?

dnbman

I was just humming Lashmoove.

powellrmp

Or should keep it dead from the 90s

You know my favorite part about the draft?

Is SAS just doing his thing up there. I’m so annoyed they had him doing the draft

Eastley

Oh, head to ESPN and he's not there. He's on the ABC feed right?

powellrmp

Please espn. We all want less Stephen a smith

Oh yeah sorry. ABC

TheDorkLord

watching on ESPN… no SAS

dnbman

Yeah. That dude sucks. He'd be angry at an ice cream shop.

Eastley

He'd pick apart the person giving you the napkin after you got your ice cream cone

That's WHY we are on ESPN vs. ABC :)

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Chef

Espn cast is Jay bilas and nothing else. Espn is just terrible at picking people to put in front of a camera and talking

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powellrmp

Dang. I messed up. Just switched to ESPN

cltblkhscoach

Clayton Jr is nice

Eastley

high teens was where I saw him projected so good on that

powellrmp

Thank you everyone

dnbman

I forgot why I was even here.

Eastley

Is BKN really going to pick all 5 of their FRPs?

ooooh DorkLord, you dodged another

TheDorkLord

woohoo

Eastley

Just got to get by Penda and you are clear, right?

TheDorkLord

yep, I was just thinking about all those Brooklyn picks in front of us

powellrmp

That would be dope of Brooklyn just used them lol

Man if Nique or Fleming are there at 22, I will be pounding the table for the hornets to move up somehow

TheDorkLord

2 down, 1 to go for the Frenchies

dnbman

Why is draft board still showing Atlanta at 22? Is it one of those situations where the pick has to made before conveyed?

Eastley

yes

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powellrmp

It’s not like the nets are trying to be good right now

Eastley

I know the Yang ascent in the draft was amazing but just thinking about how far Demin has moved up since just two months ago when he was in the mid 20s

Heat always pick dudes I want us to pick so here goes Flemming

dnbman

Wonder if OKC's 24 pick is up for sale

powellrmp

It would have to be

Eastley

Does Pat Reiley sleep in a suit and tie?

powellrmp

They don’t have any roster spots

TheDorkLord

we could give them Mici lol

powellrmp

Actually, that would be pretty cool if the Nets stepped away with 4 rookies from this first round. I love this draft. Would be fun to roll with. If you’re going to be bad, at least go for it

I bet Miami takes Clifford

I’m positive

Eastley

nah, they like to hurt me specifically

they'll pick Flemming

powellrmp

Yeah, that’s what I meant

TheDorkLord

how does Perkins get paid to do this?

powellrmp

Oh good, on espn we get Perkins amazing insights

Eastley

Oh cool, I get to hate him in the pros too

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powellrmp
TheDorkLord

fucking Heat

powellrmp

Which is somehow better than Stephen a smith

Fuck a duck

TheDorkLord

yes, that is just how bad SAS is

Eastley

All my concentrated hate can fixate on Jacu and the Heat now muhahahahahaha

powellrmp

“People don’t forget!!” Fuck you Jacu!

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GoBobcats24

Heat always get amazing picks in the 20s

Eastley

Ok Hornets, consolidate and rise please

TheDorkLord

Drake Powell, you are going to be a Charlotte Hornet

powellrmp

Good last name that kid has

He’s my cousin

He just texted me 15 minutes ago

Both of those statements are lies.

Or are they?

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Chef

Heat get dragic redux

powellrmp

Will Maluach, Riley and CMB are my draft bust picks

Eastley

wait DorkLord, is Raynaud also on your hate list or does his Stanford creds give him a pass?

powellrmp

Guys i posted a few hours before the draft that i bet the hornets do nothing exciting with picks 33 34. Either use them or kick the can down the road and offload them for “cash considerations” or future 2nds.

GoBobcats24

We do this and I will already be done with this FO

TheDorkLord

Raynaud, not really on the list

what about Kalkbrenner though?

powellrmp

I watched him play in person in chapel hill back in December or January

I left the game extremely confused as to why he was getting zero draft buzz other than an occasional late second rounder

Eastley

I thought Raynaud was really good when I watched him in ACC play

powellrmp

The super low stock on raynaud was bizarre to me

Eastley

wow, that's an overreach

TheDorkLord

oooo… yep

powellrmp

Nah

GoBobcats24

Powell had an incredible combine

TheDorkLord

he could surprise though, with defense

powellrmp

That’s a fine pick

Powell wasn’t going to slip beyond 25/26

TheDorkLord

I was hoping if he slipped we would get him

Eastley

hey, I like it, leaves more guys I like on the block

powellrmp

I watched every single unc game. I mean, most of them. Some in person. Trust me, powell has a much higher ceiling and skill range than people think

What’s the difference between powell and carter Bryant? One inch in height and 15-20 pounds. Drake can put on muscle easily. Drake was a better shooter than carter Bryant was

Equally good, if not better defender

Powell is a steal in the late first

Not sure about asa Newell either

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Eastley

At this point, I want us to consolidate one of the 30s with the 29 if only to reduce our draftees from tonight/tomorrow

powellrmp

Please don’t take Nique from me. We could’ve traded for this!!!

GoBobcats24

I mean there is no way we draft 4 players

powellrmp

ARGHHHHHHH

GoBobcats24

And turning 34 in 45 next year doesn't sound great

powellrmp

mother fucker

Eastley

So he's going to Sac?

cltblkhscoach

Yep

ChickenCoop

looks like it

Orlando could use some extra picks

powellrmp

I had Nique Clifford at 13 on my big board

It’s a fucking travesty he went this late. He’s going to make everyone pay.

TheDorkLord

maybe the Hornets just use ChatGPT to make their picks

QC_Thundercats

I think we’re taking whichever center falls to us

Eastley

If Fleming is on the board and we're picking and we don't, I am joining the revolution

QC_Thundercats

Raynaud will be picked one before us

powellrmp

Nique is 23, has make progress every year, shoots threes at 38%, is a good defender, can pass, average 9.6 rebounds per game. He’s ready to be plugged into a team

Eastley

just kidding, I don't know much of shit

powellrmp

And is 6’6

Eastley

ORL really has a type in this picking former all star players' kids

powellrmp

Dear Jesus, please give us Fleming

tnhornetsfan

We're selling 33 and 34 for cash tomorrow aren't we

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cltblkhscoach

We got to pay for these stadium upgrades!

powellrmp

I TOLD YALL

Eastley

With BKN picking 7 times in a row ahead of us, they'll clean out everyone we'd want

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GoBobcats24

Another to keep an eye on is Ben Seraf

Been rumored to jump to late 20s

Eastley

It's getting to that point in the draft for some guys:

powellrmp

Oh yeah, I left Jace out. Maluach, CMB, Riley, Jace Richardson, Fears are on my mind as good bust candidates

TheDorkLord

Raynaud will go 27 and Fleming at 28

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GoBobcats24

You guys are insane, we will obviously pass on both

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QC_Thundercats

Wait, we have a chance to draft a guy named Hugo. Do it Mitch! I mean Jeffrey!

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Eastley

Cash Considerations can fucking ball out in the right situation guys! I have seen it

ya'll need to read the Michael Pina rip on the PHX trade (posted in the Mark WIlliams thread). I literally laughed reading it

it's so nice when we're not the punchline

Weird, I thought Proctor went back to school

powellrmp

I was going to post a screenshot in here but I can’t. Anyways 10 years ago I predicted a disappointing outcome with our 2nd round picks

Eastley

Flem still lives

powellrmp

There’s no fucking way we draft 29 33 34. Are we just going to sell these

Mich_Mercer

That would be crazy to me… getting all these assets and just pissing them away… pretty much when we had two lottery picks a few years ago.

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powellrmp

Omg just sell the fucking picks and move up

GoBobcats24

Welp there goes Seraf

Eastley

Well hell, BKN aint buying picks, they are out of fingers to count on

TheDorkLord

use one to go up to 27

powellrmp

Exactly. This is crazy

Eastley

Perk: Right now, he's feeling embarrassed,… and he should be

lol

TheDorkLord

he sucks so bad

Eastley

he's got that super sweetie pie bedside manner

cltblkhscoach

Lmao

powellrmp

I’m so mad they didn’t use those picks to move up and get a guy like Clifford

Liam mcneely is much better than this.

Eastley

please hornets, don't pick danny wolf because we feel bad for him

powellrmp

He’s a better shooter than last year

QC_Thundercats

We’re keeping everything cause we’re getting Fleming and raynaud. And…wolf or McNeely.

Eastley

Flem still lives

Boston is going to jack us up here aren't they

TheDorkLord

you say there is a chance?

powellrmp

Okay wolf is off the board

QC_Thundercats

Could’ve been fun to do the wolf chant from teen wolf

powellrmp

Please please please give us Fleming

Eastley

Dreams of Wolf Nipples

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TheDorkLord

lol

GoBobcats24

I can't believe the Nets just picked 5 players in the first round of the same draft

QC_Thundercats

Does Boston have bigs anymore? I think they need to take one

tnhornetsfan

Boston has to take a center here

GoBobcats24

And didn't trade any of them

Mich_Mercer

We kind of need a center… Lol

GoBobcats24

My how times change

We have Nipples and Ball now

If we get Lonzo we have nipples and balls

Eastley
Mich_Mercer

I said it earlier but we really need to be making callings on Grady Dick.

TheDorkLord

any butt available?

GoBobcats24

I would be good with that, Dick made a huge jump last year

Mich_Mercer

Bring back Leaky Black too. Leaky Black Dick Nipple and Ball

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TheDorkLord

Boston will take Fleming

Mich_Mercer

There’s goes Hugo.

Eastley

With Kalk and Max still on the board, I feel we can take Flem if he's there and know we can get a C at 33

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GoBobcats24

We have Fleming and Raynaud on the table

Mich_Mercer

Let’s go get Fleming

TheDorkLord

yes, Fleming now and a C at 33

GoBobcats24

Yeah I would try to get Reynaud tmrw

QC_Thundercats

Yeah man, let’s do it! Which means we wont

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Mich_Mercer

Why not get him today if we can just get him later? That is the hornets way

GoBobcats24

HEY GUYS HE FELL TO US. Well we might as well risk seeing if he falls to us tomorrow instead and just pick some crazy shit right now

TheDorkLord

draft Fleming and trade him for two future 2nds

commercial

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GoBobcats24

There you go, commercial during our pick

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QC_Thundercats

Commercial!!

Eastley

and the commercial break right on time

GoBobcats24

It was destined to happen

TheDorkLord

just like a Panthers draft

Eastley

just like very NC Foot/Basketball draft now

QC_Thundercats

Please don’t draft Proctor during the break. Please don’t draft proctor during the break

Mich_Mercer

Fleming has good length to be a good defender which really seems like what we need here

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Eastley

if it's not Ray or Flem, I'll be soooo bummed

But Flem would be the super fun pick

TheDorkLord

yeah, if we pass on Fleming now… ugh

Eastley

He studied French in High School Dork

TheDorkLord

lol

Mich_Mercer

Oh we will… 100%

QC_Thundercats

Damn, how many commercials can they fit in 2 minutes.

tnhornetsfan

Let's go Fleming now, get a center tomorrow

Eastley

lol, pick is in … during the commercial for a Lexus and UFC

QC_Thundercats

Adam silver hates us

Eastley

how would Liam be accepted if he's the one?

GoBobcats24

LOL

Eastley

please Hornets gods, FLem

Mich_Mercer

Two white shooters

Eastley

Why Hornets!?

Why

TheDorkLord

they hate me

Mich_Mercer

I’ve always wanted one of those… Hahaa now we have two

Eastley

He's good but man, I wanted Fleming

GoBobcats24

Welp we got whiter

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powellrmp

Holy shit I wanted Fleming

cltblkhscoach

Who is this dude

QC_Thundercats

White Boy Summer! Add a Kalkbrenner and raynaud

powellrmp

Liam at 29 is great value

ChickenCoop

kid is a player

powellrmp

Really wanted Fleming

ChickenCoop

can't be mad w/ that

GoBobcats24

At one point he was projected in the lottery

Mich_Mercer

It seems like we drafted the same guy twice?

cltblkhscoach

They must think these centers will be there tomorrow

Eastley

We really like the dive on the floor gus

guys

Mich_Mercer

Hornets culture. Ha

Eastley

hard to believe we could still get Fleming at 33 lol

powellrmp

The one poster on HP is going to go crazy. The guy that posts all the trade machine stuff and wants the hornets to get UConn players

QC_Thundercats

He’s kind of a Gordon Hayward type though, tall ball handler that can hit shots

ChickenCoop

coop teammate night

since we got rigged of the chance

Eastley

yeah, Liam is a good get, I just wanted Fleming more - I really dug him in his interviews and he kinda popped off the screen to me.

Mich_Mercer

Can we hire McNutt to be our sideline reporter? We can then have Ball, Nipole and McNutt.

powellrmp

I cannot imagine Fleming somehow slipping to 33.

Mich_Mercer

He might and we still won’t pick him.

powellrmp

I had Fleming at 16 on my big board

Eastley

Yeah, but we didn't imagine he would drop past the low 20s for you, mid 20s for me - so he isn't as valued as we have him clearly

powellrmp

Yeah it’s wild to me

QC_Thundercats

Maybe everyone just assumed he’s off the board and aren’t considering him?

TheDorkLord

so we probably get a center next, this wasn't a bad pick here

Moussa gonna have to step up though

powellrmp

In a bizarro world if we somehow go Fleming and Kalkbrenner at 33/34 I’ll die happy

TheDorkLord

trade up now? :grinning_face:

powellrmp

Clippers have to be picking Fleming right?!?!

Eastley

Pretty impressive to turn Mark Williams into Liam McNealy and a 2029 FRP

ok, pick 31 tomorrow and Fleming, Kalkbrenner, and Raynaud are still on the board

powellrmp

Omg the dream is alive

TheDorkLord

so, not so bad

Eastley

I will say, if we could come out of tomorrow with Fleming and one of Kalk/Raynaud, I will light a beam of my own

QC_Thundercats

We could still take a French guy

Eastley

I'll leave the chat open but will create a new one for Second Round tomorrow. You guys all have a great night - fun stuff. Love all yous guys

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TheDorkLord

hope I get back from Raleigh in time to watch live tomorrow… if not, cat you guys later

powellrmp

East, if we somehow are able to get Fleming and kalkbrenner at 33/34 can we have a gentlemen’s handshake and bury the hatchet

Fleming not going first round absolutely blows my mind

My overall sense is that last year they put Lee’s system in place to see who could play that way. Now the team is drafting players who fit.

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Such an interesting reaction. Nearly every draft “analyst” or “pundit” is universally praising the selection of Kon, or at least saying at an absolute minimum it’s a very solid and good pick. And a lot of the guys I trust who cover our team (the Buzz Beat guys namely) were all in consensus that Kon was the best choice for us and how we badly needed a player like this.

But just casual fans on here and RGM are acting like it’s doomsday. I’m not saying one school of thought is “right” and the other is “wrong,” it’s just been interesting to watch unfold. Watching Kon and the energy he plays with was intoxicating for me last year so I’m pumped, but I understand the concerns about athletic limitations.

Are we just so burnt? PTSD from Frank/Cody/Morrison? It’s difficult to say but I’ve wanted a player like this for so long. I don’t think it’s the same at all.

Indifferent about McNeeley.

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I think it is the majority of the day to day fans knowing that Charlotte doesn’t have a real core. Whether that is because of constant injury or, for me and some, that melo isn’t the guy. Either way, the perception is that Charlotte selected a glue guy or at his ceiling a 3rd banana with the #4 overall pick. When this franchise sorely needs a true star. Someone with melo’s skillet and kemba or crash’s demeanor and professionalism.

Real fans like us know that in addition to Zeller/Kaminsky/Morrison we also drafted players with the tremendous physical tools who failed in Charlotte:

Noah Vonleh
MKG
Malik Monk(a little short but could jump out of the gym)
Bismack Biyombo(character guy but little else)
Salaun for now but hopefully he’ll turn it around

We can’t get caught up in trying to avoid supposed past trends. Just because Alexis Ajinca was a failure it doesn’t mean you avoid drafting a Rudy Gobert. Every player deserves to be treated like an individual.

Kon is kind of unique. He doesn’t have length and burst, but he does have energy and abnormal physicality at his position.

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We hired two shooters. That is not good for NSJ.

I’m very happy with the first round. I’d give us an A- for the evening. Liam was an absolute steal at 29. We’re going to really like him. He’s a much better shooter and player than his college season.

Kon is the shooter and connector we need between Melo and miller. Not a great defender, but a quality one. Cody Martin-esque level of defense. High motor.

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It could be a “you, you - winner gets to play” between NSJ and KJ.

NBA Basketball Trek The Wrath of Kon!

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Will be writing a nice article on the hornets draft. I had a day and a 10 hour drive to stew on all of it. Will try to hammer it out tomorrow or Sunday

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Welp!!! If this is true then the new ownership go butt romped by a savy business veteran. It all adds up and apparently Schnall’s homer desperation was blood in the water that attracted a shark. Hopefully we will learn from this to stop other predators from looking at us candy @ss punk prey during future drafts.