Game 15: DET at CHA

Must win to salvage the season already?

Iā€™d say way more important than win or loss is how Melo comes to play. And my bet is, if he comes correct, itā€™s a solid win in the box score too.

maybe a career high points too if we do good because melos career high is 38

Do we expect Lamelo not to ā€œcome to playā€? He will give his full effort as usual.

We match up terribly against this Detroit team, will be a tough game to win

Can we maintain our solid lead? Based on this teams past I donā€™t think so!

Let the comeback begin! Hope we donā€™t just settle for three point shots! Melo, Mann and Miller going cold! New head coach many new players from the trade deadline last season but same old Hornets! I know this is supposed to be a season for growing but f that. I am tired of our team losing!!! Pistons by 6 We keep losing I will change my screen name to HarmlessSwarm!

How can I change my screen name to HarmlessSwarm!

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Eastley

They seem incredibly sharp so far

No change in idiotic fouls apparently

Chef

:rofl:

Off to the bench young man

He such a baby mentally

GoBobcats24

He gets an absolute shit whistle and to pretend like that doesn't exist is just wrong

Chef

Although he was absolutely mugged.

Eric should be fined every time he compares Mann to Iverson

DemonDeaCat

I mean, he's not AI of course, but the similarities in appearance and play style are definitely there.

Mich_Mercer

Frustrating to see Lamelo with 3 fouls in the first quarter, after being benched last gameā€¦ such a bummer

tijan has been looking a lot better though. Seems heā€™s slowly figuring things out

DemonDeaCat

I think you have to get him out after the second. Can't have him out there in a position to pick up a 3rd in the 1st quarter.

Mich_Mercer

Heā€™s probably planning on benching himā€¦ so him having more fouls will just make it easier. Haha

Chef

He wears a baggy uniform and headband, that's about it. Iverson had a completely different game and was an absolute blur. Mann isn't

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Mich_Mercer

A tech for that!? Of courseā€¦

Mann thinks heā€™s AI for sure.

QC_Thundercats

I liked that little scrappiness from Tidjane. Once he packs on the muscle, he can start bullying people. Refs still stupid of course

Chef

Brandon needs to shoot that or stop and pull up.

NBA refs are atrocious. How the NBA allows this in have no idea

GoBobcats24

Marat Kogut in particular is an absolutely crooked ref

One of the most if not the most crooked ref in the league

QC_Thundercats

I like how moussa doesnā€™t take shit either. Maybe this is that new Hornets DNA, no more pushovers.

Mich_Mercer

Love how Lamelo is guarding with his feet, with his hands out.

The team looks better with Lamelo in the gameā€¦. Crazy.

GoBobcats24

Are you sure?

tnhornetsfan

Just started watching a few minutes ago, but I like how LaMelo is playing even though he has 3 fouls

Coach Lee showing some trust by leaving him out there

DemonDeaCat

Yep. A calculated risk but a gesture that could go a long way.

GoBobcats24

3 fouls for Lamelo in the first and 11 pts with good defense in the 2nd was pretty great to watch

tnhornetsfan

Just noticed no Bridges?

Eastley

Have we lost this year when he's sat?

GoBobcats24

I hope that wasn't a strained left hamstring for Miller. Sure looked like it and went right to locker room

powellrmp

Diabate is very good at challenging without fouling. Thatā€™s a veteran skill

TJ SALLY

Mich_Mercer

Lamelo is looking so good right now

powellrmp

Tuna salad!!

he looks like heā€™s having fun

ouch

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Mich_Mercer

Iā€™m shocked they didnā€™t go ahead and call that one on Lameloā€¦ lol

powellrmp

what a fucking shitty shoulder check

this ainā€™t hockey big dog

Mich_Mercer

Holy hell!

Lamelo is good!

powellrmp

LOL

thats a REAL big ā€œfuck youā€ from Melo

also, lol at Salaun doing a pump fake three from like 40ā€™

TJ, keep ā€˜em honest. But no one is buying that lol

ray

Lamelo needs 7 points to tie his career high

powellrmp

Mann has been ice cold lately

Mich_Mercer

Definitely can tell a big difference with Lamelo running things than Mann

powellrmp

Nice action there for miller

side note-I really like the pistons jersey actually

DemonDeaCat

Tell me that crossover wasn't Iverson-esque!

powellrmp

Iā€™ve been feeling really frustrated with mann lately. Iā€™ve noticed he wonā€™t really get the offense rolling until 10 seconds on the shot clock

woof

Brandon what

Mich_Mercer

He seems to be dribbling too much, trying to be AI

powellrmp

Turnovers turnovers turnovers

Mich_Mercer

Turnovers always seem to snow pile with us, for sure

powellrmp

We are #26 at turnover percentage league wide. 16.4%

Dude

if we lose this game

I swear to god

Oh boy

stupid

Mich_Mercer

Typical Hornets luck here

Bullshitā€¦

so they said Ivy did foul but wasnā€™t hard enough?

Time for Lamelo to foul out on a bs call again.

powellrmp

I know weā€™re going to lose

I know it

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Mich_Mercer

We wonā€™t be able to throw the ball in towards the endā€¦ watch.

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powellrmp

Oh I know that story

Mich_Mercer

This is so typicalā€¦

ray

If we lose this idk what we do

GoBobcats24

That is such a horseshit overturn lol

Its a joke at this point

Mich_Mercer

I hate us. Why am I Hornets fan

powellrmp

I hate this team

I hate watching

Mich_Mercer

Iā€™ve hated them for years now but I keep coming back. Does that make me stupid?

powellrmp

i hate it

Yeah it makes all of us stupid

tnhornetsfan

Not playing smart at all

Mich_Mercer

The refs always have a way of changing out momentum with bogus callsā€¦

weā€™ve totally sucked as after that review

The refs will review this and call a flagrant

powellrmp

I knew we were going to lose with about 6-7:00 minutes left in the fourth

GoBobcats24

So this is the exact same call that they just overturned for Detroit

Odds the same happens for us? Probably 0

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Mich_Mercer

Of courseā€¦ they completely ignored the other part

I guess his push off was ā€œmarginalā€

DemonDeaCat

So a hook is only considered a hook if a Hornets player does it. Got it.

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Mich_Mercer

such shitā€¦ the refs only seee what they want to

Neeeds to be way more time on this clock.

Can we get the ball in?? No

i doubt we can draw up a playā€¦ bc us

Trey Mann and Ball can play together? I had no idea that was possible

powellrmp

Dude

Mich_Mercer

Time for Lamelo to foul out in OT now.

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powellrmp

It was the perfect in bounds play too

which is hilarious

Mich_Mercer

Like the only time we drew up something goodā€¦ we still didnā€™t get the ball off

tnhornetsfan

Wouldn't have counted anyway

powellrmp

I know, which makes it funnier

GoBobcats24

So fucking rigged

powellrmp

Pistons player shouldā€™ve made the tip in to win the game. Insane that he missed

Eastley

Impulse control for the loss

powellrmp

wow

GoBobcats24

Crazy that they foul out Lamelo on that call

powellrmp

Absolutely insane

Mich_Mercer

There you goā€¦ water is wet.

Lamelo fouls out on a questionable call

Eastley

Is his 4th stupid foul in this game. And he has a long rep of dumb fouls so there you go

GoBobcats24

That foul happens 20 times a game and never gets called

powellrmp

Itā€™s not just that one particular foul. He commits a lot of dumb ones

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GoBobcats24

Like the one where he got fouled and they called it correctly on the court and then overturned it?

powellrmp

Yeah, I donā€™t feel that bad for melo

Eastley

If last game wasn't a lesson, maybe tonight will be

Mich_Mercer

We cannot score. Why does Mann dribble so much.

Eastley

He needs separation to get a shot of pass off

His lower back injury is affecting that

Diabate is such a menace

powellrmp

Moussa Diabate reminds me of Dennis Rodmanā€™s rebounding

Mich_Mercer

We suck ass

DemonDeaCat

Also reminds you of Rodman's shooting

GoBobcats24

Like those types of BS calls are the difference between 4 and 6

Eastley

If he didn't make so many obviously blatant fouls for no real advantage, he might get the benefit of the doubt. He doesn't get that for cause.

powellrmp

Well, he also earned 4 of them

Mich_Mercer

Miller time

powellrmp

Thatā€™s a bad man

Eastley

Thank you Miller

ray

I feel bad for melo

3 points away from his career high

Chef

B mil

Mich_Mercer

Here we go! Iā€™m back in you guys.

ray

Diabate is maybe the biggest steal in hornets history

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Eastley

Oh Milly Milly Milly

powellrmp

Wow

thats a quick release

Chef

Diabate with the Ben Wallace stat line 16 rebs 1 pt

GoBobcats24

Miller showing some serious guts

Maybe even of a cat burglar

powellrmp

Uhhh how did the refs not see him step out

Mich_Mercer

The refs wonā€™t look at this

powellrmp

fucking really

really guys

Mich_Mercer

ohā€¦ Nevermindā€¦ they are

powellrmp

damn really??

GoBobcats24

Nah we called timeout

Mich_Mercer

I think heā€™s out

GoBobcats24

Advanced the ball

ray

That's out

powellrmp

he looks out

ray

Ref was legit staring at him

Is ref blind

powellrmp

eeeeasssyy

Mich_Mercer

If that was us, theyā€™d take those points away

GoBobcats24

Ivey was out on the 3? Can't they change the score? Done it to us plenty of times

I am in arena they didn't show it

powellrmp

They wouldā€™ve called Melo out of bounds in that situation

without a fucking doubt

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Mich_Mercer

Letā€™s not foul on a 3 now

ray

Brandon miller has the same career high as melo

Grant don't pull a I'ma make both

He did it

He really did it

Wow

Don't get revenge on me duren

Wooo

Took way too long but we won

Eastley

That was an incredible FT miss there. I am impressed as hell with Ivey on that

DemonDeaCat

Nice way to gut it out guys!

Cody with the strip. He always does the little things.

ray

Big big Brandon

What is Brandon millers nickname

Good of Melo to acknowledge he had 3 dumb fouls tonight. I do how he can get this figured out

3 dumb fouls is half. I sure hope lee can help him grow up. He has talent but no head

Itā€™s not that drastic. No head is Kai Jones, or Bouknight. Itā€™s more like he has a kind of Touretteā€™s, where if he gets fouled and no call, he has an arm tic to reach out and grab something.

Although that overturned call for a hook was really weak. There was no swing or elbow shove, he basically reached through a little bit. Its a no call for every other player, star or not.

That OT foul also should been let go. I saw a jersey grab, sure, but it was inconsequential, there was no tug, the defender caught the ball and wouldā€™ve been off to the races, they easily coulda let that go. They definitely would not have called that on Edwards or even Brunson or Haliburton. Trae wouldā€™ve fallen down holding his eye and gotten 4 free throws for it.

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All benefits of the doubt he might get if didnā€™t have the reputation he continues to earn. He needs to clean it up. He is getting a lot of calls he hasnā€™t in the past, but heā€™s going to continue to be called for fouls when itā€™s a 50/50 or even 40/60 call. Thatā€™s all on him at this point.

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If the rules are different for Lamelo than other players how is that his fault?

Nice bounce back game from Lamelo. The message was sent and I think it was received. Heā€™s still relatively young and even though this is year 5, heā€™s missed a lot of court time. Thereā€™s stuff he needs to clean up (e.g. the 3 silly fouls) and the critiques of his game are fair and valid, but weā€™re still talking about a guy whoā€™s averaging nearly 30 pts a night, has shown a clutch gene and is an unquestioned superstar talent. Iā€™ll take these ā€œproblemsā€ any day of the week.

And I love that he and Brandon seem to be figuring out how to play off each other. When they both get comfortable in their roles they could be special together.

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because heā€™s very much earned those rules.

I agree that he has ā€œearnedā€ some of the calls against him. He needs to correct that. However, NBA officiating has got to be the worst in professional sports. Itā€™s the consistency. If they are going to let things go for/against one player, it should be the same for all.

Edit: the hooking foul on LaMelo, should have been the same call on Cunningham (?) on the other end, he hooked Green (?). Instead they unheld the foul on Grant, which I think should have been a no call because Cunningham initiated the contact with his arm.

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Exactly what I have been mentioning. Different rules apply for Lamelo. I donā€™t see as much how he has ā€œearned those rulesā€. He earned the right to get hacked with no call? He earned the right to have 3 touch fouls called on him a game?

I am not onboard with that. Not pretending like Lamelo doesnā€™t have dumb fouls but at the same time acting like that means he should never get calls and also have a microscope on him on defense is just not something I can agree with.

And yeah, the overturn where Lamelo got fouled first and was called correctly only for it to be incorrectly overturned and then right after that Cunningham actually commits an offensive foul and they donā€™t overturn it.

Lamelo rules. Given unfairly, not earned IMO

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Totally agree. The number of times refs will spend 3-4 minutes reviewing a call and STILL get it wrong is mind-boggling. The hooking call you referenced was particularly bad, especially since they had just reviewed the same play a few moments earlier. But one of the worst, that actually worked out in our favor ironically, was the call in the Nets game (I think) where the ball clearly went off Milesā€™ leg and we were awarded the possession after review. Maybe that was a make up for one of the several calls earlier that we shouldā€™ve gotten but didnā€™t, but thatā€™s just a bad look and makes it hard to have any confidence in the overall fairness of the officiating.

The shooting foul on Diabate on the rebound attempt was insane.