Hornets 2025-26 Season

When I first saw that I was desperately hoping it was AI. What a joke.

1000% travel. The NBA just wings it on travels. Enforcement is however you want the game to go. It’s like a cop can pull you over for going 1 over the speed limit, or he can watch a car blow through a red light going 20 over the speed limit and decide they don’t want the paperwork.

But there are 2 major changes that has all us old heads in a tizzy. Growing up, once you established the exalted and almighty pivot foot, if the ref noticed that pivot foot appear to rotate or slide, immediate travel. If you dared pick up your pivot foot, at the millisecond the rubber sole lifted off of contact with the ground, the play was whistled dead, travel, go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200. They didn’t even like if it was just your toe, if it looked like you could potentially travel, they just assumed it for you.

The other big change was the two steps rule, but going backwards. The NBA was the only league that allowed the gather step, old school gathering attempts in middle/high school had the refs doing a coordinated travel dance. But James Harden finding the loophole of going backwards, that never would have been allowed. But then allowing a gather step, then two steps backwards, has us 80s and 90s kids bleeding out of the eyes.

And, And… once you take 2 steps, you either have to shoot or pass. You can’t then establish a pivot foot. That’s a week long travel to a tropical island.

And now we have Grayson Jerkface Allen combining all elements. He does an extended gather, then two step backwards, and then has the audacity to create a pivot foot, hops on it, then steps through.

I’ve accepted the pivot step through and the 2 steps backward, but you’ll have to pry my worn VHS of Red Auerbach’s Winning Basketball out of my cold dead hands before I accept what looks like a chatGPT video of a basketball move.

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100%

The most frustrating thing about all of it, is it virtually makes it impossible to play defense. Then they start calling all contact as fouls, so you have system that makes it impossible to play defense.

Then young guys have the nerve to say players in the 80&s and 90’s couldn’t defend current day players.

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Regarding the defense comment. I totally agree, it’s frustrating. The way around this is to play intense, make a lot of contact, and overload the refs due to continuous physicality. Example, look at what the Thunder do. Especially over the playoffs.

When all your defenders on the floor are playing with physicality and intensity, it forces the refs to actually use discretion. Instead of blowing the whistle just because there may have been contact on a drive. When there’s always contact, they start to swallow the whistle and back off.

Holy shit people are stupid. People operate on little to no information. The trade was two years ago, before the fbi investigation, and the nba cleared Rozier per the league investigation. Why the fuck would the hornets disclose or HAVE TO disclose that information when a guy was cleared? Cmon man.

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Because it is a material fact.

*I will expand on this to explain better. I am in real estate. There is a duty of the seller to disclose all material facts prior to sale at listing. Material facts can range from needed repairs, past issues, title issues, etc. Anything that can affect the value of the property or the ability of the seller to convey title (which obviously has a negative effect on value). Material facts also include things that have been repaired such as past foundation work, asbestos removal/remediation even though it is no longer an issue.

A past investigation into a player that is not public information would definitely be a material fact under this definition.

HOWEVER, the question here is whether this is included in the NBA/CBA definition of material facts with regards to a trade. The reality is that I bet the league didn’t want to say anything at the time because they don’t want to admit or bring attention to the games being fixed. They cleared the allegation but then got stung when the FBI filed charges. Because Rozier was cleared by the league and this never really effected the trade at the time or in the near term. The Heat traded for Rozier for a title/playoff run. Terry was available unhindered by any investigation to perform for a season and a half.

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Great post. I was trying to think of a good analogy and that absolutely fits the bill. I think there’s a few things that stand out.

-the nba did investigate and they could not find anything conclusive. A) they don’t have the power and scope that the fbi does B) the nba is highly motivated for gambling stuff not to be public.

-I would add the nuance to point B that if the nba did find anything conclusive, I actually think they would’ve nipped that shit in the bud and crucifed Rozier. To make an example out of him and a lifetime ban. I actually lean towards this now that I think of it.

-You also used the word “allegations”, which is what it was at the time. The NBA doesn’t have power to file charges or investigate if there are no charges filed. I actually wouldn’t be surprised if the nba found the Rozier case fishy, but did not have enough to make a formal ruling. Thus, they helped tip off the fbi.

-lastly, the heat traded for Terry to help with a playoff run. The allegations had nothing to do with health or injury concerns. So why would the nba impede a trade when they didn’t have enough info or legal precedent to do anything otherwise? That would’ve set off a shitstorm with the nba players association.

This might be giving the nba too much moral credit, but I actually think they’d be more motivated to nip the player gambling issue in the bud early on.

Because they already excommunicated that Toronto player. My interpretation is that they knew the Rozier stuff was fishy, didn’t have enough hard evidence to make an official ruling, and turned info over to the fbi as things started to come to fruition in their investigation.

I don’t think the NBA was complacent with this or trying to sweep it under the rug, I just think that they were aware of the fbi investigation starting and didn’t want to make a public comment. Which would tip off everyone the fbi was trying to tackle.

I think it is far more likely that the sports book contacted the fbi. I think the NBA most likely wanted it buried and tried to do that themselves not thinking the sports book would want resolution

NBA could care less if the betting is tainting the games. As long as viewership and engagement is up because of props, lines ,etc. and by all metrics it is way up across sports.

Maybe I’m too idealistic and giving the nba too much leeway/credit. It seems when sports and gambling come together, there’s a lot of “moral flexibility” abound.

I wonder what information will come to light in the next few years. I’d imagine some very interesting YouTube videos or mini documentaries will be made.

This is a fascinating watch and is highly recommended. Really well done piece. He has some other nice videos on his channel as well.

Had to delete my post I’m sorry. I shouldn’t have shared that Silver story.

Four days off and the same dudes out. F’n ridiculous. Free tickets for the Bulls game tomorrow, hit me if interested.

Sick! Glad to see Lamelo is out again. Gotta be careful with him so he can play a few games for us and then get hurt again.

it it possible to play through a little pain to make everything stronger?? Maybe playing more willl mean less injuries? Idk..

I don’t see Josh Green, is he back?

I think he is. But…. Hornets law… someone else will get hurt within a game of him coming back.

Or he will get hurt again.

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I’d rather guys have some sort of minutes restriction than just skip games. I mean, it’s like in baseball when a pitcher is working his way back into the rotation from injury. You play him in the regular rotation, but limit his pitch count.

I’d rather our guys be allowed to work their way back and get back into the flow of playing than just skip entire games. Even if it’s limited to 20 minutes. Let Melo and miller start and get some time back on the floor together but just watch their minutes and play more bench.

Man.. I hate hearing the word minute restriction. If our franchise guys will be on a minute restriction for now on, just trade them.