Welcome Tidjane Salaun: The French Connection Part 8

I don’t think he’s four years (or even three) away. I would expect him to become our primary backup PF next year. In three years he will be on the younger end of our timeline but if he’s a starter then this will be viewed as a brilliant long term thinking pick.

The media (especially social media) thrives on short term thinking. This story does fit their instant gratification craving so they don’t like it. I say the new owners spent billions to buy the team. If they want to be deliberate and patient so be it. Funk the social media pundits who openly state that they don’t have our best interests in mind.

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Despite being a bit of a late bloomer compared to other French prospects, Salaün has rapidly developed since joining Cholet and was a fast riser during the pre-draft process after playing a significant role on a playoff-bound team. The Ringer’s Kevin O’Connor describes Salaün as a “young talent with the raw qualities to potentially become a versatile two-way star,” noting his off-ball defense, positional versatility and hustle. Per Sam Vecenie of The Athletic, Salaün has remarkable fluidity and impressive balance for his size, plays hard and with confidence, and “seems to care and is always engaged on the court.”

Prior to being drafted, Salaün already had some familiarity with the Hornets’ organization, given its history with French-born players. “I know it’s a club that’s trying to remake itself,” he said. “They have LaMelo Ball, who is a great player. He makes a lot of things happen on the court. I love watching him. It’s very impressive how he plays. Before, they had [former majority owner] Michael Jordan and French players in the past like Tony Parker, Boris Diaw, and Nic Batum.”

I would be absolutely shocked to see him crack the rotation this year. He’s young, raw, and has a lot to figure out. But there’s no point speculating now in June.

That wasn’t a criticism of the new GM/decision makers. It’s a smart move by them to avoid taking a player that is more ready. You don’t want your first draft pick to look like a flame out within the first 6 months or so of running the team. And if in the future, Tidjane doesn’t work out-they can still say “hey we swung for the fences in a bad draft”.

It’s not a criticism. It’s just a smart PR move.

I don’t see how drafting a player and not playing him this year or next is a good PR move. There was a broad acceptance that Kai was 2 years away from being 2 years away and folks still didn’t give the team any grace that he wasn’t playing significantly in year 2. They will be judged by how he starts to pan out this year, regardless of if that’s fair. It will be up to the ownership group to not listen to that. Hopefully Peterson has their full backing.

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Saw a nice quote in an article from before he was a pro. You love to see it.

PI: You have already played against several other participants in this camp at some of the big international events we spoke about before — have you started to become friends with anyone?

TS: To be honest, not really. I kind of keep to myself and still view everyone as an opponent. I am very competitive and I want to beat everyone at everything.

Also, I keep reading about him being 3 years away on different forums and social media, it’s not like it’s a threshold he must meet first before he’s allowed to contribute.

Within even this last season of the French league, he looked like a lost puppy at the beginning to then being their leading scorer in the playoffs against the 2nd place team in the league.

From what I know about international coaches, they dont give a shit if you’re a future NBA prospect, they only play guys who they think will help them win. So for him to wrangle a spot with 25-35 year old seasoned, grown men, he probably has a better grasp on basketball than a super raw, still-mooing prospect like Thor or Kai.

The deer in headlights we see on YouTube from earlier in the season was understandably from adjusting to a new speed and strength he’s never experienced before, which will be higher here of course. But his trajectory from where he came from, to where he can get has a higher slope than just about anybody in this draft.

Being called maniacal, a gym rat, a dawg, viewing everyone as his opponent… I think he’ll pick up the game at a good pace. At worse, he can earn spot minutes as an energetic defender and spot up shooter/dunker spot finisher. I prefer him mostly in the G-league for the first couple months at least to get reps.

But his timeline is still on Melo’s timeline. He’s not expected to be the leading scorer, like ever (maybe the 3rd option eventually behind Miller and Melo) but Melo is 22, 25 in 3 years. Tatum and Brown took til 26 and 27 to win a championship, so Melo would still be younger even on that longer timeline.

We can be patient and allow some grace, don’t have to rush to trade our other star because we feel the timeline is not our expectations.

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Yes, I am so much in the camp that you absolutely can’t waste any of the cheap for years. Like the NFL is figuring out with quarterback and receiver contracts.

You need to throw them all in the fire and see which ones come out. You basically have 3 years to figure out if this kid can play or not. And if they can only play in Greensboro it means they can’t play in the NBA.

If you’re going to commit to these high upside extremely developmental guys, you have to throw them in the fire. You can absolutely manage minutes and situations, but they need to be on NBA floors not NBA g League floors

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:100:

When I started hearing some buzz about him early in the pre-draft process how he was climbing into the lottery it stood out they were saying how his performance was drastically improving as the season progressed and into the playoffs playing professionally against grown men. They were saying the Spurs were heavily interested early on and how that would be a good landing spot. I was always intending to circle back and look into him more as a prospect but never got around to it mainly because I never imagined we would draft him.

But when you look at his stats and how much they say he improved from early season to the playoffs, I’m encouraged that he may not be that far away from some contribution sooner than later yet the upside and growth opportunity is huge.

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The timeline, especially as we’re looking to keep our lottery protected pick next season, has to be Swarm to begin with and learn the systems, then main rotation post all star break. Similar to Mark’s timeline. Anything sooner would be very promising.

The Spurs - that’s the rumor going around - he wold not have fallen below 8th. In light of that there were no real trade down options for the FO.

I am glad that the FO kept its preferred pick close. All of the social media guys thought that we wanted Dalton, Sheppard or Donavan - end of story. Funny how they all will take the same uniformed narrative and run with w/o a second thought.

Yes I think he is because he already has an NBA ready body, plays hard, defend and can shoot the ball.

As a coach, it’s not difficult to find minutes for these types of player in my opinion. He won’t be asked to create his own shot-like a Brandon Miller do, he’s not that type of player currently. He has a soldier mentality

Awesome deep dive by @Plowright on his 3 point shooting.

40% catch and shoot rate and comfort from deep will be an immediately useful tool. Once he refines his ball handling and being able to attack the rim on close outs, may open a ton of doors in the future.

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I mean, I can repost it if you want me to. He’s a raw developmental player who has just turned 18. Are you expecting him to play a serious role this year?

Is this kid going to remain with his French team next year?

I would be extremely surprised if he were to remain with Cholet next season… I don’t think that’s what they intend at all but I am wrong all the time with regards to the Hornets lol.

Wow he has really deep range.

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Yes, in getting a top 2 pick

That is a great link. I recommend everybody click and read the whole thing.

If he gets minutes with Brandon and LaMelo, all he has to do is shoot his 40% from wide open catch-and-shoot looks and bring his energy. Keep it simple.

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Nice video here. More than just the stat highlights. Shows how he reacted to various situations over the course of a game. He is 18 years and 4 months old here.

At 5:11 He effectively goes vertical for the shot bother rather than the glamour stat block.

At 5:25 He’s perimeter guarding a 6’4" 29 year old guard.

Some good stuff in there. I like that he has an in game set shot. That should mean at worst he can catch passes and shoot.

Seems to have a decent concept of defense. Working to stay in front and bother vs trying to block everything like a chicken with it’s head cut off.

Definitely plays about 3 inches shorter than his reach. I don’t think he got one rebound or shot one inside shot at the top of his reach. That is very coachable though.

Color me intrigued.

If he can become a guy that plays a role similar to how the Nuggets use Aaron Gordon I’d take that. What he does well does seem to be a good match for our roster

Good video. Looks like he can be a serviceable 3&D 4, and run the floor in transition. I’m a little excited to see him play. Ready for summer league to get going.

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