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This is a statistical outlier as they say
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As for Miles, itās whatever for me at this point. With Lameloās extension kicking in offsetting Gordonās expiring contract we wonāt be able to afford him anyways whether he wanted to be here or not.
This is where PJ resigning becomes important. Heāll be the starting 4 and we just need to build that bench up. A broken record for years. Lol
Hey knock it off, Coach, and let me enjoy my recency bias. Also, please go shopping during games until we lose againā¦
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Iām going to name the fandom for NSJ, the nsj-crew haha. Itās stupid but I hope it sticks.
You want to be co-presidents with me?
Weāll keep workshopping the name of our organization.
I really do think NSJ will expand his role this season and find himself a regular spot in the rotation. I really do think heās going to go off for 30 points at some point this season. I wasnāt being hyperbolic after the draft when I said that I felt like there is a possibility that NSJ could be really good and in the same stratosphere as miller. You never know
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Itās amazing that the hornets had to do that in order to scrape by with a one point win. Absolutely wild. Not good man.
I think the idea of extracting value for Miles at this point isnāt going to be worth much. Heāll be unrestricted so the only leverage weād have is helping a team without cap sign him. Whatās that historically gotten tho? It will for sure be salary.
This may be the way to go in the end depending on who else has space as well as whoās available in FA but Iām expecting at best middling players and maybe 2nds. It might serve us best to just let him and Hayward leave.
Iāve been expecting Detroit to get him anyway. For all I know they could do it outright.
Sucks we have to suffer for him being an ass but here we are.
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The biggest thing for me about a Gordon trade is that Iād like more room for miller and NSJ playing time.
Particularly NSJ. He can shoot, has a good motor, and seems to be a willing rebounder and defender.
But as mentioned before, Iād hope that a Hayward trade doesnāt involve taking on several years of bad/meh contracts. If itās a player thatās useful on a slightly overpriced contract, I can deal with that if itās only another year. Particularly, Iād take on a contract like that if it meant we get another draft pick.
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Feel free to add to the listsā¦
Hornets bad luck in recent years:
*Miles Bridges turning out to be violent.
*The Kenny Atkinson situation.
*LaMelo and Gordon injury issues.
Hornets good luck in recent years:
*Lottery luck getting LaMelo
*Lottery luck getting Miller.
(Oddly enough, this wouldnāt have happened without all the bad luck. A good citizen Miles, a coach Atkinson, and a healthy LaMelo/Gordon all negate us getting the B-Miller24 pick. So perhaps we are on the upward swing of our luck.)
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Well said VP. I like this positive thinking.
But man, the Kenny Atkinson thing was so excruciating-especially how the national media spun it against the hornets being the problem. Instead of Atkinson inappropriately backing out of what was a done deal and throwing his family under the bus as the reason.
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Thinking in terms of CORE piecesā¦
In a sense, Miles going violent means we traded him for B-Miller24. So we got a kid who better aligns with the LaMelo/Mark Williams timeline.
Hopefully B-Miller will be better than Miles, thanks to elite shooting/skill potential.
That said, as awful as Miles is as a person, I love his game. I love watching the powerful guys, especially in that LJ/Zion height range. Also, Iām an old lefty baller, so I instantly read his moves better, and his ambidexterity blows me away. Iāll miss his entertainment value if he goes. I always say, if youāre nowhere near championship level, at least be entertaining (see Run TMC).
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Yeah, the way miles can use the right hand to finish on drives is pretty surreal. Not to mention that miles is a very good free throw shooter and is shooting 45% from three this season in a small sample size (14/31).
If miles plays at his ceiling (which isnāt sustainable), Iād agree heās that 25-30m per player. Just like if PJ could sustain his ceiling level performance, heād be worth the 20m per he was asking. Unfortunately, neither of them have been able to do that.
The future for miles bridges in charlotte feels pretty murky.
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If you guys donāt think the Hornets played some role in Atkinson setting his head coaching future on fire, I question your objectivity. Sure heās largely at fault but we had to have given him enough reason to pause such that things went the way they did. Thereās no way thatās 100.00% on him, especially knowingthe scarlet letter heāll wear because of it.
Counterpoint: if you go through two thorough interviews, agree to the point where the team feels very comfortable in announcing theyāve come to an agreement with Kenny Atkinsonā¦and then he backs out. Then thatās pretty unprofessional.
Itās not like he didnāt get information during two separate interviews. That reflects very poor on him to agree to the point where the hornets feel comfortable enough to share, and then back out. Thatās ridiculously unprofessional. And then he throws his family under the bus as the reason.
Iām not saying the Hornets organization has zero to blame, but I still think the media did a huge spin job to place the blame on the hornets. Since the media gargles the ballsack of the ever popular warriors who can do no wrong, and try to shift the blame to the hapless, small market fuck ups-the charlotte hornets.
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Going back to trading Gordon (and Terry) I agree with not taking on multiple years of dead salary but I do think we need to take salary back. Currently weāre 28th in team salary but close to the cap. To close that gap to the tax line we have to manipulate with the bird rights we have.
The teams that I think Gordon would be a good fit on are really limited in assets.
The issue here being, PJ is a far from ideal fit alongside Mark. We really need a starting #4 who is a good defensive rebounder. PJ is, I believe Iām correct, statistically the worst rebounding Big in the league.
The two other things we need in the starting unit, to complement LaMelo, Miller & Mark, are rim pressure and point of attack defending.
This is where our new GM, please get one soon, needs to work some trades and FA signings. The old adage of Draft for talent, but sign and trade for fit.
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Iām assuming youāve moved on from miles bridges in this scenario?
Julius randle would be ideal on this team. I know he has limitations but he would be really good for what this offense needs and for rebounding.
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Jalen Duren still would have been a great fit with Mark. Any time there is talk about this, it brings back the draft memories.