Not sure but miles was definitely carrying last night
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Adrian Griffian had a 30-13 second best record in the league at the time that he got fired. What was the Bucks choice for a replacement? Doc Rivers is way overrated and most likely is not the answer for them!
It may be too soon after he was fired to hire him but it isnāt like the Bucks underperformed record wise so he for sure has done enough as a head coach that somebody should take a chance on him again. He doesnāt deserve to be the next Vinny Del Negro!
Iāll admit Iām not as knowledgeable about the coaching pipeline as a lot of other people are. Itās just not something I pay a lot of attention to. It seems like the popular choice is Budenholzer, which Iād be fine with. But I canāt help but recall that there was similar buzz around Quin Snyder last year as a āmust haveā yet the Hawks have struggled since he took over. Bud was also about to get fired for consistently underperforming in Mil just before they won, so I donāt necessarily see him as a canāt miss
hire. Given that, I also wouldnāt be opposed to a less established guy. DeadlySwarm makes a compelling argument for Griffin. I donāt think a rookie HC was necessarily a great fit for a team with established superstars who have championship aspirations like Mil, but I think he could work here.
I agree that Jackson deserves another shot somewhere. Whether heās a great fit here or not I donāt know. Iād want to understand better what went wrong in GS. Iāve never heard or tried too hard to research that, but I think heās definitely worthy of a close look.
Also agree with Chef that Iād be skeptical of any college coach. Itās just such a different game. And I also question realistically how a female head coach would be received. My daughter is really into basketball so I actually watch a fair amount of WNBA. Itās completely legit in terms of the talent, coaching acumen, entertainment value, etc., but like college, it is a completely different game, and the reality is I think it would be tough for a female coach to win over an NBA locker room. Not saying itās right or wrong, but I think itās just the reality.
Love Staley and the Gamecocks, but see her as a Nick Saban type. Part of her talent is recruiting, which would be mostly irrelevant in the NBA.
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That100%. Wnba is that way too.
Major yikes. Hard pass. Pretty much every story Iāve read about him has had references to him being a very odd person.
Edit: Iām talking interpersonal standpoint-Mark seems to rub people the wrong way.
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An odd person who played a significant role in turning a losing program around. As we have seen, if an organization isnāt happy with their head coach there is no point too early for them to part ways with that head coach. I see no reason why a losing program would not take a chance on a fairly inexperienced, but briefly successful head coach such as coach Jackson with no real mark against him other than what a few people have said!
As far as most of the players that played for him are concerned, he deserves another job as a head coach. That has to mean quite a bit!
I have seen murderers, rapist and people like Miles Bridges get more chances and true forgiveness than what coach Jackson has gotten, āand many of them suffer from mental illness.ā As far as I know coach Jackson hasnāt done anything close to criminal or been diagnosed with a mental illness, and/or is taking medication for such. He made a few people in the organization and among the free press feel uncomfortable. How dare him!!!
I say chalk it up to the likelihood that Mark Jackson was too open with his faith and for some people that was enough to cost him his job and have had him blacklisted.
I would love to see coach Jackon get a fair chance at returning to be a head coach. Even if the job he got was with our Hornets. That may just be me though. Remember I did say fair chance and not some job set up for him being likely to fail and further tarnish his reputation!
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Call me old school, but just as I believe in the separation between church and state, I believe in the separation between church and basketball.
ā¦Orā¦Maybe mark can perform an exorcism to cast out the demons from this hornets team and replace those demons with the healing power of Christ.
Maybe the team just needs a ābaptism by fireā.
Or instead of rookie hazing, mark will institute rookie Wednesday night youth group meetings for them.
Itās not necessarily a matter of preaching or any of the other stuff you mentioned as it is a matter of boldly professing your faith when the time is right. Itās also a matter of setting standards that are based on your faith. There is no need to preach but if players curse and act out or play music that is offensive not only to devout Christians but to any decent law abiding person, then you let those players know.
I find that simply professing my faith all the time is not what is called for. I donāt do that. However, if asked you will find no shame in me doing so. If people on a job donāt like the bosses rules and/or beliefs there are ways they can protest that. However, the GS Warriors I saw under coach Jackson were a team on the rise and if they were offended in any way you would never know it.
Many people who were anti Christian and found a problem with accepting any faith in regards to their jobs and places of higher learning are now fervent Christians who boldly profess their faith. They are better off for it!
Live any way you choose but if you ask me about anything regarding my faith I will proudly and boldly tell you what is aflame and born inside me. I am far from living up to Godās standards but I will never be ashamed of knowing Christ Jesus and his love!
By choice I think helpful discussions on Wednesdays or any day/days of the week would be good. Nobody should have to accept any kind of religion but the option of being a part of religious activities or helpful activities shouldnāt be dissolved because some people are uncomfortable with them!
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Hereās the thing Powell, many many coaches say things publicly and to the team that are not just basketball.
Had I been a member of either the warriors or spurs when their respective coaches go off on yet another current event rant completely unrelated to basketball, I would not have reacted in a positive manner. I may not have vocally objected but it is distracting from the goal of the team nonetheless.
The point I am trying to make is that focusing on his professions of faith as the reason seems to be cherry picking. Especially, when he says it wasnāt the case and there isnāt evidence from any of the former players that that was in fact what caused the issues.
He could have just a completely abrasive personality or not be a good coach. But to say it is just his faith professions seems shortsighted
Chef, I am not about anyone forcing religion or anything else on anyone. The point I am making is that as Christians we are many times put on the spot in regards to our beliefs and the extent of them. While I donāt think it is time for a sermon I do find we should boldly be proud of Christ Jesus and our faith and address any questions openly and honestly that are asked in regards to our faith. We really know nothing about what may have gone wrong between coach Jackson and those he upset. I simply speculated it was his faith due to my own personal issues. Forgive me for making assumptions!
From what I have read and from the turnaround success of the Warriors under Mark Jackson it appears Mark being out of coaching as long as he has been is uncalled for! I wouldnāt be surprised if faith in Jesus didnāt play a part!
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Sounds like the biggest statement of faith is that Mark Jackson did nothing whatsoever wrong at a fundamental level but heās been ignored for every single head coaching opportuntiy for 10 years for no real reason other than heās religiously oppressed.
The other reality is that he has zero wants to be a coach again.
All Iām saying is that I read plenty of stories that highlight how all sorts of people in markās past have had issues with him. There seems to be some sort of drama that he brings.
It seems there are a plethora of interpersonal issues that have arisen relating to mark jackson. Even aside from the religious stuff. The religious stuff isnāt even so much the problem.
When I hear a lot of stories that continue to highlight high conflict interpersonal issues, thatās a red flag. And yeah, some of the religious stuff didnāt land well with people.
(So no one needs to come at me for admonishing religion. Iām not. Iām just saying that it doesnāt work for a lot of people)
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This is more to what I was getting at. Stories arenāt lining up. I donāt buy powellās line of reasoning that it is solely a proselytizing reason particularly in a league where the majority of the players wouldnāt be offended that badly anyway.
I also donāt think it is solely a case of some sort of lockout by other teams.
I also donāt think it is solely he doesnāt want to coach because he has directly said otherwise.
It is interesting though
Iām not saying that. I know Iām the resident heathen here at HP, but thatās not what Iām saying. Itās a part of it, but thereās a larger picture than just the religious stuff.
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I agree with Powell here.
Though I do think Mark Jackson probably does deserve another shot but I donāt think it needs to be here. Thereās also another aspect which is he hasnāt been an NBA head coach for nearly a decade whilst the game has drastically changed in that time
Not directed at anyone. Since Mark Jacksonās name was brought up the other day and the possibility of him not getting another job since GS was because of being outspoken about his faith, Iāve been thinking. In our society, people seem to get multiple chances for all sorts of actions that are deemed wrong. Discussion of things, and use of language, that others find offensive is the norm. However, it seems to me that being outspoken about ones religious beliefs, in particular, Jesus Christ, is one thing that might get a person frowned upon, ignored, ridiculed, discriminated against, or even ācancelledā. Our culture seems to tolerate almost anything, except Jesus. Now, I am not for Jackson being the Hornets next coach. I know itās superficial really, but I just donāt like him as an announcer. Nothing more than that. Sorry for the rant. Back to the Hornets!
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To consider:
- People still see a lot of ridicule and are ācanceledā for a lot of things, but most of us arenāt mindful of it (in fact, if we hear it, it seems natural or just) unless we identify with what the person is being canceled for.
- Faith is widely accepted and even desired for things like political office. (Like this Gallup poll where 80% of respondents would vote for a qualified Evangelical Christian where as only 60% would vote for a qualified atheist.) In sports in particular, faith seems like more of a positive thing than a negative thing. Itās only certain actions (typically coercion of some type to participate in spiritual activities) that become a problem.
I have no idea why Jackson isnāt coaching. But if it had to do with religion, I would think it has much less to do with expressing Christian faith, which seems like most athletes and coaches do, and if anything more to do with inappropriate sermonizing or coercion to participate in things players didnāt want to. But again, I have zero evidence of any of this. I suspect heās just hard to get a long with, faith aside.
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Super hard no to Mark Jackson. Major hard pass.
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