Game 23: Pelicans at Hornets

[Eastley]

Game 23: Pelicans at Hornets

[spectre]

Mark and PJ out tonight. Thor gonna be our backup C?

[Eastley]

Heaven forbid it’s Mensa

[cltblkhscoach]

https://twitter.com/HornetsOnBally/status/1735807030500212956?t=SwQYRiTCbL38JhAwkECwNg&s=19

[GeraldWallaceMVP]

The Cody Zeller game

[Chef]

How are the spurs +4.5 and the hornets +9.5

That has to be Vegas controlling action on the spurs/Lakers more than what they really think the spread is. That is an all day Lakers bet, right?

[cltblkhscoach]

Bridges and Rozier with a lot of love for Borrego after the game

[system]

Originally sent in Game 23: Pelicans at Hornets

spectre

Mensah

Honestly he hasn’t been half bad. He definitely can set screens

Oops lol

GoBobcats24

Mensah looks tiny out there but better than I expected otherwise. Not sure if he is an NBA player though

spectre

I know! He was standing beside miller and 24 actually looked bigger to me

GoBobcats24

What is Mensah 6'10"? He is undersized horizontally and vertically lol

Richards is a pretty major liability defensively and has been worse than I expected this season.

But then again he is a Hornet!

spectre

6-10/230 id never have guessed that

hard to believe

of Nathan Mensah . The Aztecs’ 6-foot-10 forward is among the team’s leaders in total rebound percentage (#2), block shots in a career (#3) and in a single game (#2 tie).

Definitely use that

GoBobcats24

Haha welp theres something to build on I guess

spectre

I’m hoping he knows how to block out and it rubs off lol

Pass dribble dribble dribble pass and repeat. How hard is basic offense

GoBobcats24

Pretty quiet in this arena tonight. Not that it hasn't been most of the season…

spectre

you’d think we’d see other teams pass the ball around quickly and say hey let’s try that

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Chef

With Clifford at the helm, it's diamond hard on the scale

spectre

he can’t leave quick enough

Chef

I mean I guess at this point why fore him but it is absurd that he wasn't fired last year.

spectre

I think he’s detrimental and it’s just more ingrained bad habits someone else has to get the players out of

but they won’t so…

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Chef

Who are good coaches out there for hire? I can't think of anyone that excites me. The league seems stagnant in both players and coaches. Sort of those between eras periods

GoBobcats24

Coach Bud would be a good get for this team

spectre

I dunno i just don’t follow the league much anymore. I did try and do some looking in regards to your trade idea but I just don’t have the knowledge

I do think wiggens could be had cheaper tho

Chef

Me neither.

spectre

maybe Hayward only but we’d be adding salary. But is that such a bad thing? We’re like 40 million from the tax line

but there has to be some promising assistants worth a shot

I do think just letting hayward expire would be bad and I expect us to do it

Eastley

Seems like the halftime shows have been shopped from the $1.99 bin at best buy this year

All part of the product I guess

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spectre

Someone just texted me a gif showing panthers tix as low as 45 cents lol

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GeraldWallaceMVP

Feel like this gonna get ugly

Atleast I got a "It's Miller Time!" shirt

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spectre

Get it signed it’ll be worth something

Chef

Hornets are dangerously close to Jackie moon territory

Lakers down 20 in the 2nd. Of course I posted Lakers at -4.5 all day. It's like Vegas knows things

spectre

But but the lakers are the in season tournament champions

No worries tho pop knows how to tank

Eastley

Zeller looks good from 3

QC_Thundercats

Looks like I picked a good night to renew my health insurance plans. 39 at the half, in this offensive era in the year of 2023. Only Cliffy could do that. Shades of Maggette and Tyrus the Virus

spectre

Richards looking gimpy. We’re going to b facing embid tomorrow with no Cs

QC shows up we go on a run!

QC_Thundercats

Just checked the box, the bench hasn't hit a shot in 39 minutes of play

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spectre

Im no bouknight fan but my god what has he done where he gets no burn with our bench

GoBobcats24

IDK but I sure hope he doesn't go full Malik Monk next season wherever he lands. Monk is a MUCH better player than him though

tnhornetsfan

I think Clifford is trying to get fired.

GoBobcats24

I think Whitfield was the first domino of many to fall

Surprising that it was him first though I will say

spectre

Bench points!

that was a sick shot by Terry

mensah!!!

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tnhornetsfan

From a basketball perspective, it's going to be real difficult to let Bridges walk.

GoBobcats24

We literally can't do it

spectre

i think we sign him then trade in 6 momths, at least thats what I hope

GoBobcats24

Obligatory buzzer beater opponent 3!

Mensah showing some nice signs defensively I will say

So it is either try to resign him or lose him for nothing or facilitate S&T

spectre

yup plus that salary position

Buckets22

Wtf is the issue with the buzzer beaters?

spectre

Ok I officially like mensah

Chef

There should be a dateline episode on what happened to Cody Martin.

I just can't believe not one reported has asked "so what's really going on with Cody? Is he ever going to play again?"

tnhornetsfan

When I saw Mensah in SL, my first thought was to cut him. Tonight he looks better than Thor

GoBobcats24

Putting Mensah in right there with 5 fouls to replace Richards with 5 fouls was definitely a choice. Lol

Now Richards is going to foul out and we will have to go small against Zion and Val. Game over

spectre

Solid play he’ll figure out the fouling

GoBobcats24

Should have went small right now with those two out. But yes Mensah definitely looks better than Thor not that that is saying much

He had a solid debut

Against a tough team

TheDorkLord

Mensah for a first game thrown into the fire, not bad

GoBobcats24

IDK what we are saving Richards for on the bench at this point. For Zion to come in and foul him out?

spectre

Staying in it

Eastley

I don't know what the numbers say but miles seems to be far less efficient than I remember him

TheDorkLord

I think Miles has been forcing too many things lately

that's the nicest way I can say it

GoBobcats24

We continue to have the WORST ATO plays in the NBA

spectre

Sigh

Eastley

I put that on the guy that puts them together

Wow Terry

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TheDorkLord

Terry!

Mich_Mercer

Terry Rozier is really good. We need to give this guy respect. Not many guys can make that shot.

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GoBobcats24

Wow, just wow

Eastley

That bench scoring, woof

Mich_Mercer

Of course… they’d get that rebound. Always find a way to lose a game

GoBobcats24

Mensah has outrebounded Richards tonight

Eastley

What was nick doing on that miss?

spectre

Cuz we don’t block out

GoBobcats24

Nick doesn't get defensive boards

spectre

kinda felt like that was bridges

GoBobcats24

He is an offensive specialist

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Eastley

Or screens

GoBobcats24

Bridges had to come a long way to get that it was Nick's rebound

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Eastley

Nick didn't seem to even challenge for that board

spectre

Ya but I think bridges should have blocked out the shooter. Doesn’t matter tho

Mich_Mercer

Well… we once again lose a close one. It always feels like we can correct small things and be a winning team. But it’s a repeat every single season. But I’m always faked out by it

spectre

Just like that, 24 and bridges on left side 24 should take the shooter. You guys are right tho that it should be nicks board

hey least we aren’t getting blown out could be worse

Eastley

Clifford the big red coach needs to go

spectre

absolutely

[system]

TheDorkLord

#Game 23: Pelicans at Hornets

#Game 23: Pelicans at Hornets

tomorrow will be brutal

[Eastley]

Not surprised. I think we let go of the far better coach. We just refused to give him the players he needed.

[QC_Thundercats]

Ready for the team cheer:

When I say MORAL you say VICTORY!

MORAL…

[cltblkhscoach]

Clifford has taken veiled shots at Borrego when he talks about teams getting to the play-in and not having a defensive philosophy and getting drilled.

That being said, that was the last real time this group was together for an extended period of time. Borrego, definitely better offensively. Cliff, better defensively.

But, for us, Borrego was like Allan Bristow for Hornets historians. Young coach with a promising young core but had flaws. Bristow was criticized for a lack of a clear offensive strategy and critical decisions in close games.

[Eastley]

If you look at the numbers, Clifford was only a better defensive coach one season, the 2016 playoff season. All the rest, he wasn’t appreciably better than JB. And this last two years, he’s been a significantly worse defensive coach than JB.

[cltblkhscoach]

That’s not necessarily fair though, especially the last two years with all the injuries

[Eastley]

JB never had a defensive center outside of Biz whom he had to balance out his defensive quality vs. his Eitri-esque hands on offense (and that wasn’t even his best defensive year - that came the year after the let Biz walk I believe). Additionally, he had the same defensive rankings with Terry and Devonte’ compared to what Clifford has had the last two years, even with injuries. Injuries included, Clifford has had better talent to compete with on the defensive end compared to JB and has fared notably worse. I don’t buy he’s a defensive coaching savant, I think folks lauding his defensive chops are just acknowledging his offensive allergies.

[DeadlySwarm]

Why isn’t James Bouknight getting any burn with this lost roster and a season that is by all intents and purposes over?! When we are down 30+ heading into the second half tonight, what is the harm in playing James Bouknight solid minutes?

[Dav]

Hands down JB is a much better all around coach. Ask Miles and Terry after the game last night.