Game 44: Jazz at Hornets

I think Melo doesn’t play back-to-backs.

He needs to sit until he’s 100%. I don’t have an issue with him not playing back to backs right now.

It isn’t like playing Melo gives us a real chance at winning. The only difference with him is how much we we’ll lose by. Instead of losing by 20+ we will lose by as much as 40+!

I just want him to wear a fucking ankle brace. I’ll be honest, I’d rather trade Melo if he isn’t going to wear an ankle brace. Because he’s going to keep getting injured over and over again.

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Anyone that want to go for free? Shoot me a DM

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He’s just not playing back to backs right now guys nothing to be overly concerned over

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Chef

Me settling in to watch the game. Eric: "Ish smith is going to get the start tonight!"

Me: well at least the canes are on tonight

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spectre

Not looking a lot different tonight vs last night so far

GoBobcats24

Guys I don't want to shock or alarm anyone, but Nick Smith is about to PLAY IN THE FIRST QUARTER!

SO basically in order for us to not play Ish and Frank at the same time, Lamelo has to be out. Lol

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Chef

Jazz are good. Very balanced roster. Lauri m is really good

Potential 50 pt quarter. Clifford has got to be fired. These guys are terrible but this is effort

cltblkhscoach

Man I couldnt even give these tickets away lol. And don't even mind taking the loss

QC_Thundercats

Look, with this weather (and coaching and lineup), I don't blame you

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spectre

At least we have Ashley

QC_Thundercats

75% shooting allowed 3rd quarter. 75% shooting allowed 4th quarter. Tonight 1st quarter, one make away from third quarter in a row at 75% allowed.

Gotta be an NBA record for futility. Cliff must've had a hella of a pregame speech to accomplish that

GoBobcats24

Actually a good crowd tonight thanks to Mascot night for kids I guess

spectre

Now that was nasty

cltblkhscoach

I hope y'all saw what B Mill just did

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GoBobcats24

OH MY GOD

I HURT MY HEAD CELEBRATING THAT

It's about time Miller had a poster finish like that he was due

cltblkhscoach

That's a Top 10 easy

spectre

That looks even better in slomo

QC_Thundercats

Sorry, I'm about 10 minutes behind from rewinding that replay 27 times

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GoBobcats24

Thats a dunk of the year candidate

QC_Thundercats

29 times

GoBobcats24

Also, I hate the way we bury Miller on offense

Weak side damn near every set

Meanwhile we LOVE running plays for Martin

And Martin has significantly regressed defensively. Gotta say it again. This guy has been a big disappointment both ends and I didn't even have big expectations lol

QC_Thundercats

Down by 30 less then 18 minutes in the game, that takes true effort!

cltblkhscoach

I'm having Bobcats PTSD

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powellrmp

This is worse

spectre

They usually gave effort. I don’t know what to say about this

seeing a little life maybe? Finally getting embarrassed?

GoBobcats24

I know we don't have Lamelo but Cliff is getting insanely outcoached on both ends right now. Nothing new!

Cody Martin out here getting targeted on defense lol

cltblkhscoach

Man what in the hell is this backdoor shit

High School stuff

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spectre

Its like they’ve never played organized ball

cltblkhscoach

Lmao what the hell

GoBobcats24

We have had Miller waiting at scorers table for 2 mins

Fucking stupid shit

spectre

Dells words…not aware

GoBobcats24

Good thing we got him these last 25 seconds of defense

QC_Thundercats

If we can keep it within 30 this half, we have a chance of only losing by 25!

GoBobcats24

Thank God we rested him those 2 minutes that turned into 6

woodsy23

Surely this is the end of the road

barring some second half miracle

haven’t we all suffered enough

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GoBobcats24

Nah if Cliff hasn't been fired by now it isn't going to happen until after the season

woodsy23

Ye you’re probably right

but jeez

if he was a racehorse…

GoBobcats24

If he was a race CAR he would be in Dale Jr.s woods right now

Having been wrecked so hard so many times

IDK if you guys will understand that but Earnhardt Jr. Collects wrecked race cars and puts them in the woods on his property

spectre

We’ve always had guys with some pride until now

powellrmp

When are the rams going to start wearing paper bags on their heads at games?

GoBobcats24

I agree, the Bobcats were always devoid of talent but played very hard even in the 7 win season

Martin LOVES going 1 on 5 lol

Chef

Martin is playing terribly. That pass and the one he licked out on to Richards in the post were awful. 8 year old basketball awful

cltblkhscoach

Nice run to cut it to 30

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tnhornetsfan

Missed the first half. Guess it was a continuation of last night's second half. Should've fired Clifford at half time

JFoster

Well the rockets were just as bad last couple years . Just overpay for a good head coach. Get some hard nosed veterans. Get rid of the bums and BOOM we back to being a fun team. One can hope anyway

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powellrmp

Exactly

there’s no reason why we can’t do that

its been Mitch’s inability to have any cognitive flexibility

But we’re entering a bad FA year

spectre

This Dunn guy

oh its at least a 2-3 year thing

Chef

Rozier was the only professional on the roster. These guys play like an aau team

spectre

Bazemore. Could he be a good locker room vet? I have no idea but he’s with the swarm now

cltblkhscoach

If you were an NBA veteran, why would you come to Charlotte

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Chef

Sure I guess after the fire sale. Say Feb 9

spectre

Hes from NC

Chef

Prolong a paycheck?

Right now the hornets are scouting the big 3 tryouts

spectre

could be all the above but one can always hope lol

GoBobcats24

ALERT: we are down less than 30

spectre

I want this dunn guy he works

GoBobcats24

He was completely out of the league he just looks good because he is playing us

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spectre

We could swap them our defensive stopper cody martin

woodsy23

I’m wrong more often than I’m right but… Trade rumor thread - #516 by woodsy23

spectre

lol probably right

GoBobcats24

Dunn is a defensive specialist at this point and nothing more

Chef

Is this the point where we point out the margin has not shrunk below 25 for 3 quarters. Defense needed

spectre

At this point id like seeing some Bryce because why the hell not

powellrmp

I think I’m good on Bryce. I know his deal now

cltblkhscoach

Under 25 @Chef

Chef

Hahahaha. Sorry watching hardy boys with my daughter

Eastley

We watched Super Mario Brothers instead of this debacle

cltblkhscoach

Cut it to 17

Miles Bridges showing some leadership, interesting

Chef

15

The better not comeback. Cliff needs to go

cltblkhscoach

PJ having a nice game

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spectre

They’re not going to fire him either way or hed have been gone a month ago

cltblkhscoach

33 for PJ sheesh

spectre

Dag PJ!

cltblkhscoach

The bad thing is they actually could have made this interesting if they could play a lick of defense

Chef

At some point spec it gets too bad

cltblkhscoach

7-8 in the quarter

spectre

You’d think so right

Originally sent in Game 44: Jazz at Hornets
Chef

That was a decent kids movie. Felt very old school

Eastley

Just curious, how is it that Nick doesn't have any ability to bock out? Every time I see him out there, he's in zero position to get a board.

Chef

They don't teach that anymore in the 3 and dunk only era

spectre

Ha he just blocked out collins and cody got the D board!

Eastley

I sit corrected

spectre

Think that was the first time ever

Eastley

It was my trigger point to hit warp speed ffwd and zip to the present on DVR

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spectre

and he didn’t then

Eastley

Well jumping to block every shot, even those with negative chances of getting anything on the ball, doesn't put you in good position.

spectre

Now that was good! Nick took off from the free throw line to dunk

Eastley

Lol, he just pancaked Collins there

spectre

Definitely a highlight for the night lol

Eastley

Not sure he had any chance of getting the ball to the hoop but I admire the gusto

spectre

Only like 5’ short!

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Eastley

and 5' past the FT line take off

powellrmp

I’m so glad I’m not watching this

For those of you that are watching, does it build character?

spectre

They grew a bit of spine in the 2nd half

but no

Chef

If it did, you are amongst so very high character fellas. We have been doing this for 15+ years

spectre

Theres no gain in this that I see…maybe PJ and Nick raised their trade stock

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Eastley

That's the rebounds nick gets, the one that carry over the offensive player because he does nothing to get in front

Chef

Powell, I thought you were asking if watching builds character in us haha

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powellrmp

Oh yeah, I was. I already have enough character. So I’m not watching

Chef

3's east

spectre

10 down

7!

Eastley

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But we called a time out so this will be an ATO TO

spectre

Ugh I’m on delay

cltblkhscoach

Once again, I don't understand this inconsistency

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powellrmp

sounds like PJ is having one of his random big games, before he puts in another disappearing act

Eastley

At least we're out of time outs so no more inbound issues after this

spectre

31 in the 2nd half

Well at least I’m not leaving pissed off tonight

Eastley

I don't know how you start this game so unscrappy after losing last night with zero fucks given

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Nicely done Peej

https://twitter.com/hornets/status/1751409967796498492?t=9AMaieupgEuFv1ZK9UBLJg&s=19

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Best trade him before he plays again and ‘bad’ PJ shows up.

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Don’t think the rest of the NBA sees this the way you guys do. He’d be a hell of a bench player for any competitive team and he’s paid bench money. He might have wanted starter money this past off-season (and there was an argument for it w/ miles’ absence) but the contract he’s on, he’s easily tradeable - I just hope we don’t do so.

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PJ will be mostly fantastic in a structured system with something to play for.

For this reason he is worth what terry is worth. An expiring and a first. Or an expiring and a young cost controlled asset

PJ shouldn’t be as polarizing as he is. We look at his explosions and wonder why he can’t just do that more often, he obviously has some talent.

But maybe if we just flip the framework we view him through, it might be easier to accept what he is. Think of him more like a Marvin Williams type role player. Capable as a fill in starter or 6th man. We should expect average stats, and he’s appropriately paid as an average stat role player.

But unlike Marvin, or the Morris Twins, or PJ Tucker, or Jae Crowder, or Bobby Portis, he has the ability to go off and get 30-40 every few weeks, or get to 20 every few games. These top games are a bonus, rather than an expectation. He’s not paid like a star, so we shouldn’t expect big numbers nightly.

I do agree that he also disappears in certain games which is frustrating as hell, but I remember Marvin having plenty of 7 point 3 rebound performances that are expected out of a role player.

He’s a solid guy and a solid player, someone who’s not too expensive and can fit in between your star players. Even during a tear down and rebuild, you still need depth of proven ability to play in the league, and he’s not costing us a premium, or blocking our ability to sign anyone.

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Can’t agree more. The only counter point is, this type of player is a roster luxury/necessity AFTER you have a solid path to the playoffs. Right now the hornets don’t. So with that in mind, IF a deal comes up where you can cash in to progress towards a solid starting 5 you should take it. That’s what I alluding to when I said the return of a PJ trade should look like the rozier trade.

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My comment was a bit tongue in cheek. PJ is paid a little over what I thought fair, so it’s probably right. I’d be happy with him as my 7th or 8th man moving forward. Not
To mention, his small ball #5 ability is a nice bit of versatility to have.

Miles, I’d trade for anything that doesn’t cripple our cap. PJ, I would only trade if it’s a good deal. Plus, in my dream scenario, we’re down Miles by the deadline, so PJ is perhaps more valuable as a result.

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Given how much shit I give PJ, this feels odd for me to say, but it would have to be a GREAT deal for me to want to trade PJ.

I agree with everything else you said. We have three more years of PJ at 15m. The salary cap is going up, (his salary) that’s a hair above the MLE. It’s about right salary wise. 12m per year would be “ideal”, but 15m is acceptable IMO

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