Game 53: Pacers at Hornets

[meloFan]

NSJ, and Leaky back to Greensboro.

[cltblkhscoach]

Have tickets for sale tonight, DM me if interested

[Eastley]

Game 53: Pacers at Hornets

[MurderHornet]

@meloFan

NSJ to Greensboro.

That’s a shame

[Chef]

With 3 new rotational veteran guards, he wasn’t going to see much time.

[powellrmp]

I agree. Given the situation, I think it would be best to see what we have with this new roster and also allow NSJ to have solid PT in Greensboro. For the time being.

As a NSJ stan, it’s disappointing but the right thing to do. Sigh. I know NSJ will be back in charlotte at some point.

[powellrmp]

I’ll be at the game tonight. Hoping for a solid crowd for a Monday night given the infusion of excitement.

[Eastley]

I’d say it would be an overall benefit if we knew that Clifford was the long-term coach and thus GSO is following his long-term plan. As it is, if neither of those are guaranteed, maybe the PT in GSO is less valuable than being around the varsity members; especially Tre and Vasa whom would be net-new information sources (and quite possibly highly valuable ones).

[powellrmp]

That’s why I’m hoping this is a temporary measure. Giving this new group a few weeks to really play. To see what we have and then get NSJ into the mix. I hope at least.

[dnbman]

With all of the young guys on the roster, I don’t think it’s a bad thing to send them down and let them focus on just a couple at a time. Tre Mann is a guy that’s going to need more growth. You’ve still got McGowens and Thor to grow and evaluate with veteran talent around them. I think now’s a great time to work a couple of those guys in at a time in Charlotte and give them more attention to see who we really need to commit to.

I’m sure NSJ will have his time.

[powellrmp]

I personally don’t expect to see Thor or McGowens on the roster next year. And would be disappointed if they were. I wish them the best.

[dnbman]

Thor has a team option, and I guess that’s probably true. McGowan is signed for another year though with a team option for 25-26. He actually looks more like a player than most of the other young guys at this point.

[powellrmp]

I guess I’m not wanting to see both cody and Bryce on the team. I’m ready to clear out the sub standard nba bench guys. I love cody as a 8th man on the bench who can do a few things. Bruce, to me, is a one trick pony. He can be a smooth scorer, but a zero on defnese. He’s a guy that plays much smaller than he really is.

[GoBobcats24]

Well guys! Starting PG tonight is CODY MARTIN!

[powellrmp]

Oh thank god!

[tnhornetsfan]

This is why he shouldn’t be allowed to coach after April 14th.

[powellrmp]

I think we got tre Mann guys.

[system]

Originally sent in Game 53: Pacers at Hornets

meloFan

I really dislike Cody on point

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dnbman

It's like he sees somebody else do something (the Nick lob for example) and tries to do the same thing but in a way that doesn't work.

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spectre

Tre still playing like a pg…first play an alley oop

cltblkhscoach

Rick Carlisle taking this one serious

powellrmp

The oop was dope

dnbman

Yeah, Tre's nice. That chemistry with Nick early is great.

spectre

I think he might be the real steal of the trade deadline

meloFan

DSJ Chapter 2?

spectre

Way better

powellrmp

Hey guys, the offense has a flow

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dnbman

give Cody some credit.

Hate Miles missed a wide open Miller after he made that three earlier.

powellrmp

I love Cody Martin. He’s a PERFECT 7/8th guy who can do a lot of things well enough

dnbman

Yeah. Swiss army guy.

powellrmp

I really want to see the small ball 5 out lineup

now that PJ is out of here

Also, #00 is the best number in the NBA

dnbman

Cody drawing a charge!!! MVP MVP MVP

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GoBobcats24

The one time Martin doesn't shoot and he is open in point blank range, leads to turnover

powellrmp

Alright bring in Micic

GoBobcats24

Can we please stop him having the damn ball so much

spectre

Richards really struggling

powellrmp

It hurts

Despite his high fg% I can’t tell you his go to post move

dnbman

He's a great finisher, but struggles if that first shot isn't there.

GoBobcats24

Cody Martin contested 2 out of a timeout. Great

This dude is selfish AF

spectre

He’s less than half the MLE. Not his fault he’s basically our only C

powellrmp

Dude 5m a year is a fucking incredible salary for nick

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Icky_Thump

It would have been nice to have Duren at this point. I guess it would have been risky trying to develop both Williams and Duren but man…

spectre

It’s just hard not to point all that stuff out tho!

dnbman

two passes Nick wasn't ready for. Those will come with time though.

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GoBobcats24

Time? He's 26

dnbman

Meaning the tendencies of the pgs.

powellrmp

Yeah there we go. Offensive rebound dunk. That’s 80% of Richards value

meloFan

Micic fake too good that even Nick got faked out

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dnbman

Almost identical play by Mann earlier

powellrmp

Curry just took my least favorite shot in all of basketball

dnbman

Don't let Chef know

powellrmp

Two feet inside the three is horrible. That’s not a quality mid

Dude. Go up with the ball in the lane. Cmon

meloFan

Decent basketball, I don't mind the misses

dnbman

Micic?

meloFan

They will go in

dnbman

Fair.

powellrmp

I love mid range. Which is why I’ve been loving miller’s ability to pull-up

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dnbman

Like that early GW 3.

powellrmp

Yes

dnbman

3 party!

powellrmp

guys

this is nba basketball

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GoBobcats24

Miller got 2 horseshit calls now he is out for the half

dnbman

On a positive note, my concern earlier in the season was his fouling, but he's generally been pretty good the last couple of months. Hate he got those early fouls tonight.

GoBobcats24

Both were very questionable calls

dnbman

Miles!! omg

spectre

His shot has been purely sick this season

dnbman

adjusting

GoBobcats24

Tre Mann has great, great handles

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dnbman

Yeah, real shifty.

Somebody else sees the Nash comparison!

Early return is that Sat wasn't an abberation

powellrmp

Tre has good looks at the basket. He needs to go up and attack. He has such good handles

Would rather see Micic instead of Cody here

dnbman

Some OKC guys were pretty upset about losing Mann.

meloFan

I would be sad to get Gordon in return too

dnbman

Shai said he was going to DVR the game Saturday for his start.

worst non-rebound

powellrmp

Fuck another Cody PG rotation

I’m so upset

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dnbman

Bertans

GoBobcats24

Millers 3rd HORSESHIT foul of the game

They are out to get this guy

Thats over the back

powellrmp

Please get Cody out

dnbman

Bertans is faster than I would have thought.

powellrmp

Please sub in Mann for Cody

GoBobcats24

How was that 3rd foul they called on Miller not over the back?

He damn near gave the guy a piggyback ride

It is what it is though we can't get him shots somehow

He needs to average 15 attempts a game the rest of the season

dnbman

I don't completely understand, but I think it's because he was turned and positioned in the restricted area: NBA Rule Authority – Restricted Area and Verticality Plays | NBA Official

GoBobcats24

You can't box out in the restricted area? News to me

powellrmp

WIDE OPEN AT THE BASKET

So many open looks at the basket have been kicked out

Nesmith is awesome

Davis on Nesmith worries me. A lot

GoBobcats24

Also this #96 ref Intae is calling some total trash calls on us

meloFan

Is Bertans gonna be a buyout in the off-season. I think maybe

GoBobcats24

No need to buy him out. Only 5.25 mil guaranteed if waived before 1/10/25. He will be a trade chip or we will just try him outnext season before waiving

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dnbman

Possibly. Only guaranteed $5 of his $16. We could use a guy like him though.

powellrmp

Cody is still the PG with Mann in

dnbman

Bertans definitely going to let it fly.

JFoster

Bertans aint afraid to shoot thats for sure.

powellrmp

When he’s on, he’s on.

meloFan

Bertans doesn't seem like a 16M guy to me. Waiving/Trading would be good

powellrmp

You’d think that, but he was a guy that could hit 5 or more threes in a given game all the time

When he isn’t on, he contributing nothing (Bertans).

Guys. This shit is brutal without miller

GoBobcats24

This fucker Intae is next level trolling us

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meloFan

A HUNDRED PER CENT TROLLING

[system]

Originally sent in Game 53: Pacers at Hornets

GoBobcats24

Dude has called almost every foul this entire game on us

spectre

Yknow situations reversed it would have been a foul on us

powellrmp

Alright. I’m a grant fan

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meloFan

He seems like a guy that we need in the locker room

powellrmp

Grant walking up to the pacers bench chatting LOL

spectre

We needed a guy like Williams

dnbman

yes to the grant talk

powellrmp

I’m glad we have someone who gives a shit

meloFan

Grant + B Miller + One More Serious Guy = Winning Mentality Team

Can bring Lamelo and Miles around

powellrmp

yep

GoBobcats24

Lamelo has more of a winning mentality than you guys give him credit for

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meloFan

I think he needs serious people around him, and he will be like them

dnbman

For the poopoo on Cody he did a lot of good things that half.

powellrmp

He sure did. And he’s capable of good things. but we just replaced our entire bench. Let’s see what those guys have. Don’t want to see Cody running point when we just traded for two pg

meloFan

He seems like a Chameleon type a guy, that adjusts to his environment

Winning Environment = Winning Lamelo imo

GoBobcats24

Also IDK what the broadcast said but we got the shit end of the whistle defensively that half. It was all the rookie ref

Like literally all of it

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dnbman

Yeah, I don't doubt Melo's hustle or desire to win. It's more about him not wanting to be the bad guy with his teammates. Sometimes you have to.

GoBobcats24

I don't even know if Dedric Taylor blew his whistle

We gotta get Miller 10+ shots this half

Chef

I am at 9 min left in the second. Catching up. One game and Cliff managed a lineup that iced out micic. That's great cliff

GoBobcats24

These refs have completely taken Miller out of this game and he still has 10 pts lol

He got fouls there before the forearm and they called the forearm after he got shoved

Lame

spectre

that pass inside by miles…no way was that working

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powellrmp

That pass by miles hurt to watch

dnbman

Weren't we supposed to trade for Miles Turner this year?

GoBobcats24

We don't need his soft ass anymore

spectre

I think you’re off by 2 seasons lol

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dnbman

It's every season, Spectre. Every season.

so much more energy out there.

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spectre

Mann gonna get a triple double sooner vs later

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powellrmp

Would you say that he fucked around and got a triple double?

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spectre

Definitely would say that haha

dnbman

That was last week.

powellrmp

on one of the worst teams in the league? A trip dub is still a trip dub

dnbman

hahaha Curry

spectre

LOL!’

powellrmp

I love to flap my mouth here on HP. What can I say

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spectre

What a great wraparound

Ok “drop off”

meloFan

I don't wanna jinx it, but this Hornets look so much better.

We look like a playoff/playin contender

dnbman

For certain. More energy. More purpose. Better execution.

spectre

Curry still has something

Chef

Indiana is a horrible decent team. They play zero defense

GoBobcats24

We scored 99 pts against them last week didn't we? Haha

dnbman

Chef, was actually about to ask that.

Chef

They are the hawks with a few more wins. They are the kings. They won't be winning 7 game series

dnbman

Great energy to end quarter.

powellrmp

Hey boys, we have a basketball team

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spectre

“Bunch of smart guys on the floor” Miles “hold my beer”

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Chef

This looks like an all-star game

dnbman

Dell notably quiet watching his boy play.

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meloFan

I'll happily watch this Hornets win or lose, before these trades games were dreadful

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woodsy23

Same as, with melo and mark still to come back

dnbman

same melo

Haven't watched much the last two months honestly.

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GoBobcats24

Lets get Miller some looks this quarter he is going to be fresh AF

meloFan

Mann, Ball, Miller, Bridges, Williams - A lineup to watch for

With Strong Bench unit in Grant Williams, Micic, Curry, Martin, and Richards

We only need a 3rd Rotation Center imo to complete the team. Anything else we add on top, is creme

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spectre

Richards playing strong

dnbman

Williams will be worked in at the C enough in a 5 lineup, I'm guessing.

Can't hurt to have another legit C though.

That Nick block!!!

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spectre

Nice!

meloFan

I think we need another legit C, to make sure to account for Mark's injuries

dnbman

Mann "Good Day" watch: 7-7-6

spectre

Hes like 23 right? Only get better

dnbman

yes

I had to look it up. Don't want y'all thinking I know these things.

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spectre

Dont worry…

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GeraldWallaceMVP

Tre Mann triple double watch

Chef

Rip nic Richards

GoBobcats24

We are hiding oir best scorer weak side like idiots

Chef

Back from the dead nic Richards. That's fun

spectre

11/9/7?

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powellrmp

This is the most fun I’ve had watching hornets basketball since forever

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spectre

And you’re live right! Good times

GoBobcats24

We are about to take Miller out lol

Wait you are telling me Cody Martin at PG doesn't work?

meloFan

Seth Curry with 18pts

dnbman

Yeah, glad for Seth. Feel good story for sure.

cltblkhscoach

Need Micic in there the rest of the way at point

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tnhornetsfan

Anybody but Martin

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Chef

Brandon gets lost alot on defense. Really shows up with competent vets on the floor

dnbman

7 players in double figures. Noticeable more energy on the defensive end too. Pays to keep everyone involved.

tnhornetsfan

Wish we had a pest like nimbrod

dnbman

Micic went to a Larry Brown summer camp.

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Chef

The next 3:30 will tell you if the pacers are a legit playoff team

GoBobcats24

They only are if Haliburton gets it going and he hasn't really gotten it going since the injury

Chef

That kid

dnbman

so smooth

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Chef

Paul Pierce possession

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GoBobcats24

They have been relying a lot on Siakam down the stretch of games

powellrmp

Brandon miller with the @Chef mid range shot

that’s for you buddy

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[system]

Originally sent in Game 53: Pacers at Hornets

Chef

That's what I mean gobob. A legit playoff team buckles down on d and wins by strangulation. Pacers can't do it.

dnbman

Man… I fell back in love with NBA with Pierce and the Celtics before the Bobcats came back.

Chef

Got my o face powell

tnhornetsfan

Seems like good energy in the building

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Chef

Micic coach

dnbman

Micic to Bridges might be my play of the game.

powellrmp

I’m in 112 row d

spectre

I think we hear you!

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powellrmp

MICIC!!!

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meloFan

What a shot by Hali

MurderHornet

This is amazing

cltblkhscoach

A let's go Hornets chant, wow

powellrmp

HORNETS BASKETBALL IS BACK

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spectre

All this good organized play getting results

MurderHornet

Are the hornets good? Question must be asked

Chef

Pacers are terrible with an ok record. They take advantage of regular season I don't care games

The just assumed micic did a euro because he's from there. If he was an American they would call a walk

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GoBobcats24

I am happy with wins and stuff but we absolutely cannot afford to go .500 the rest of the season

cltblkhscoach

I'm in there Wednesday. Can't wait

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spectre

And just the other week it wasn’t fun to go. Now you can’t wait!

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powellrmp

I might go again!!

GoBobcats24

I know yall says its a weak draft but thats even more reason to solidify a top 5 pick

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MurderHornet

Smell that? Its competence

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dnbman

Bridges is 3 assists from a Good Day

meloFan

Hopefully in the All-Star break, team will mesh even better with Lamelo back in the rotation

dnbman

Grant Williams with the STUFF

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Chef

Melo ain't coming back this year

GoBobcats24

I bet he comes back after All Star

Mich_Mercer

We’re going streaking!

Is it weird I’m enjoying this without Lamelo?

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dnbman

No. Like @chef said, dude needs to be taking notes.

cltblkhscoach

This is happening under Steve Clifford guys, just saying (don't flame me) lol

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Chef

Nope. He'd be looking for a real estate agent if I were the new gm

In spite of coach until proven otherwise

I will take two fun games. This is much needed

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cltblkhscoach

Eric Collins is so happy man lol

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meloFan

He deserves to be, like the rest of us

dnbman

for sure

JFoster

They are fun to watch again!!!

Mich_Mercer

Let’s see how Cliff closes out the season. I really do like the guy. Happy for him as well.

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GoBobcats24

He wouldn't be warming up pregame if not

Eastley

Fun win, fun game. Odd choices by the HC at times but competence generally overcame that.