Game 5: Hornets at Pacers

No chat so here’s a thread. Pacers are a strong offensive team this year. We are down early as usual.

FIRST POSSESSION WE FORCE A SHOT CLOCK VIOLATION.

I SAW A SIGN OF A PULSE ON DEFENSE

Lamelo seems very off. He is also getting fewer touches than the previous seasons. Strange.

Ball hasn’t been moving a lot on offense. Usually only 2-3 guys are touching per possession

THE ball… not Lamelo lol

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I can’t believe Bally Sports is working and I can watch the game. That said… looks like they lost 100% of their ad revenue. Not a single commercial yet.

I saw they issued an apology

Oh…. Well since they did that, I guess it doesn’t matter if their website or app doesn’t work. Haha

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Sorry gang

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@powellrmp

What a game, we tried to throw it away but a wins a win anyway you do it

guys.

they made 22 threes and shot 49% from three.

so we had to be almost perfect to beat them. so the hornets shot 23/23 for 100% from the free throw line.

that’ll never happen again. we had zero business winning this game.

edit: we made 8 threes vs. their 22. Mark williams was 9/9 from the free throw line. That’s dope.

Miller was a Doggggggg, Williams was a beast, Melo made the best on ball defensive play of his life tonight hope that gives him some confidence . The rest of his game tonight he played like ass.
Hayward played a good game but was winded at the end.
Terry is going to miss some time so I guess Miller starts at the two.
A nice game to watch even with us getting some bitch calls. against us.

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What happened to Terry?

Had to change my picture! Lol

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Originally sent in Game 5 CLT at IND
meloFan

Thanks Eastley!

Our offense is so stagnant. Ball's gotta move

spectre

Isnt this the most we’ve scored in the 1st this season?

cltblkhscoach

A tie after the first quarter is a win

spectre

which is sad…but progress

powellrmp

Guys

we started the game with forcing the pacers into shot clock violation

THE DEFENSE HAS A PULSE

spectre

I know! We’re not totally pathetic on D so far!

We’re actually playing decent except for the stretch terry tried playing PG

powellrmp

I’d like to see Brandon move a little more without the ball on offense. There’s been a few times when I’ve wanted to see him make a little move to get open or cut

would be super nice if we could communicate on defense on a really basic rebound.

spectre

he should get a touch every possession

powellrmp

Without a doubt

spectre

also thor drove to the basket 2 times in the 1st! More of that too

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powellrmp

I’m watching miller just sit at the same spot behind the arc while Theo does nothing but run in a circle. There’s space in the corner if Theo will keep running circles around the paint like that

spectre

thats some good D

powellrmp

Would love to see miller just quickly slide to the corner for a quick pop

Mich_Mercer

I’m just glad we aren’t down 15

powellrmp

yes!

im stuck with the pacers broadcast

spectre

hopefully he’s deferring trying to fit in. He absolutely needs the ball

powellrmp

they were complaining about miller not getting a foul call when he gently touched the players back (pacers player couldn’t keep balance and the ball was out of bounds)

spectre

7 blocks!

make that 8

powellrmp

I wish I had that clip. It was pretty hilarious. They were like “woah! He got bumped no call?!?”. They show the replay and Brandon gently grazes the guys jersey while he’s off balance :rofl:

Miller block

spectre

hey a game where the other team isn’t nailing everything!

powellrmp

im like 30 seconds behind. Sigh

we’re a really good team when other teams are super super ice cold.

spectre

I’ll wait 30 seconds before reacting…help you out :grinning:

dnbman

Bally
Sports
Is
Trash

spectre

Don’t tell me u still can’t watch?

gordon crafty

powellrmp

My watching experience is trash, but at least i don't pay for it. 60% of the time, it works briefly, every time.

and we took a charge??

defensive virtuoso

spectre

Yup 24.

Largest lead of the season

powellrmp

oh lawd. when is my miller jersey getting in??

i'm wearing my mint city Melo jersey tonight

it's a beautiful $25 chinese knockoff jersey

the pacers fan and broadcast will bitch about that Smith call

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spectre

That’s obviously the difference so you now have to wear it every game without washing

powellrmp

but when he leaves his feet and leans over forward with his body and hands…that's a foul

if he stays STRAIGHT UP and doesn't lean his arms over, that's not a foul

that's super basic basketball, and i'm shocked to hear the pacers broadcast not mention that

spectre

this is like the teams have switched jerseys

powellrmp

with mark williams already running down the floor that fast break looking like the classic UNC fast break system. Mark should've been a tar heel

spectre

Ugh this isn’t going to go well

powellrmp

my high school basketball coach ran our assess off. we ran a lot of the UNC system, and expected 110% effort on the break. The two big man system.

spectre

i despise how they determine a flagrant

powellrmp

in other cultures, a high five to the face is the ultimate form of respect. I'd say this flagrant foul call is culturally insensitive .

spectre

holy hell no flagrant

im shocked

powellrmp

oh it'll absolutely be a flagrant

i don't agree, but it will

spectre

oh sorry 30 seconds

meloFan

lucky break

powellrmp

it was

know your audience before you attempt the high five to the face

it has to be consensual

meloFan

Good play by PJ

Mich_Mercer

Good half. Really like the fight on defense tonight. And what Mark Williams just said… it was great to not start the game asleep.

powellrmp

man if melo can start to wake the fuck up soon, we may be able to turn it around

Random question. Anyone want a large Melo jersey? I ordered this a while ago, but I ordered a medium and it turned out to most definitively be a large.

it was from the website I always use for good knockoff jerseys. I think I paid $30 shipped from china. Would be happy to send it to someone it would fit for like half the price. I wore it once and it’s just been sitting in my closet for a year or so

Would be nice to get some wins in before we go Knicks, Heat, Bucks, Knicks, Celtics

Oh and we'll play the Knicks 3 times in the span of 2 weeks soon. So, that's weird. but okay.

meloFan

Melo playing really sloppy

powellrmp

worse than sloppy

now these are the games that make us all say "gordon is a good connector"

Mich_Mercer

I can’t wait for Lamelo to be good again. He just seems so lazy out there.

powellrmp

he's constantly two steps behind

his timing is way off

meloFan

100%, seems out of sync

powellrmp

he looks like a rookie to be honest, it's embarrassing

GoBobcats24

Lamelo looks to be questioning every one of his decisions to me. He has never done that. He needs to play off his feel

Mich_Mercer

He definitely needs to start living up to that fat contract he just got. I know he’s coming back from injury, but still pretty frustrating to watch

meloFan

@GoBobcats24 I agree, wonder if it has anything to do with the way Cliff wants to run the operations. But this seems primarily like a Melo issue, I won't deny that

GoBobcats24

I have no idea but it isn't working

powellrmp

Melo needs a vet so bad. Like DSJ or another high character vet PG to calm him down

like IT was for half a season

but, that's another Mitch decision to allow Melo to have zero adults in the locker room. Especially a vet PG that can calm him down

meloFan

@powellrmp I know many of you are not familiar, but there was a vet guard on the market for cheap called Kemba Walker /s

In all seriousness, hopefully Ish can assume that role

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powellrmp

ohh boy i can feel my butthole clenching with the rozier at PG minutes

dnbman

How has "It's Miller Time!" been in the floor for 18 min and only taken 3 shots?

powellrmp

he's gotta get touches

and he could move without the ball a little better too

Theo doesn't always get good results on the defensive end, but at least every game i see him working on that end

spectre

10/11 from 3 this quarter

jesus

powellrmp

but look how open they are :rofl:

Mich_Mercer

Anyone know why we don’t guard the 3 point line? Like ever?

powellrmp

i don't mind teams going nuts from three, because it'll happen from time to time. but damn man, we leave people wiiiiiiide open.

Mich_Mercer

it’s been this way for as long as I remember. Super aggravating

powellrmp

i just don't want things to turn into, "well teams just go nuts shooting against us". its like yeah, because they're pros and they're mostly wide open

spectre

man i dunno Halliburton is hitting with guys in his grill

powellrmp

a few of them, sure.

but not all of em

Originally sent in Game 5 CLT at IND
Mich_Mercer

it’s definitely bc we leave guys open. They do get hot vs us but there is definitely a reason. So shit… different year

powellrmp

he's an all nba caliber player, so yeah, he'll do that

oh lawd that move by terry

LAWD

Mich_Mercer

good put back by Miller

spectre

they’re also moving the ball on offense. We are not

powellrmp

spectre

stop giving away secrets

clifford might hear you

Mich_Mercer

we just don’t guard. Even if we are right there.

powellrmp

i think our bar for defense is so low, that sometimes we may consider having a defender "in the vicinity" as defending.

that's not actually defending the three

GoBobcats24

Would be nice to run one play for Miller

Just 1

powellrmp

fuck man

Mich_Mercer

I feel like our offense always seems so hard compared to other teams. We hardly ever have any set plays. It’s always… “guy dribbles to try to creat and turn the ball over or put up a bad shot”

powellrmp

i wish we had prime raja bell

spectre

lol you’re funny I’ve seen us play atrocious defense so maybe my bar is low

powellrmp

give us prime raja bell. oddly one of my top ten favorite players. i love those rugged guards man

Mich_Mercer

We wish we had prime Lamelo Ball… or rookie Lamelo Ball.

spectre

loved raja bell wish he’d came here closer to his prime

powellrmp

some of the "close outs" on haliburton by ball were hilarious. the ball was well out of his hand from three by the time melo shifts into the area hahaha

Mich_Mercer

Gotta love it… another 3

You guys think we’ll win another game this decade?

powellrmp

I know lamelo ball has the "not from here" thing. I don't care where he's from, I wish he learned defense there

spectre

Dell said it…no rotation on the weak side

powellrmp

dude, there's zero rotation. i actually find myself laughing

hahahahaha

Mich_Mercer

We’re just so lazy with the rotations.

like… seriously…

JFoster

Defense is terrible

powellrmp

oh man the hield three was hilarious

JFoster

melo decision making might be just as bad

powellrmp

his decision making…"not from here"…

GoBobcats24

How are we not drawing up plays for Miller?

spectre

24 learning to get a shot you can’t give it up

powellrmp

who?

GoBobcats24

He basically has to just get it in transition to get a damn bucket

Mich_Mercer

We definitely need to get him the ball.

powellrmp

brad miller?

are you senile? it's 2023. what are you talking about reggie miller? i know we're in Indy

Mich_Mercer

Cheryl Miller I think.

Chef

:eggplant::eggplant::eggplant: on that miller shot

Mich_Mercer

I wonder what it feels like to be a fan of a consistently good team. I want to feel that before I die.

powellrmp

i know we should've drafted leonard miller. what does he have to do with tonight?

spectre

I was a fan during showtime it was great

powellrmp

oh shit, "It's Miller Time!" is a guy on our team.

spectre

and the lead

powellrmp

i'm thirty seconds behind you guys

spectre

after all that lol

powellrmp

so just count on me for comedy

OH GOT EM

spectre

oh no

meloFan

That's a shame with Terry, hope he is alright

GoBobcats24

Looks like a torn quad or something for Terry

spectre

groin maybe

powellrmp

damn im behind yall

GoBobcats24

Maybe groin yeah

Chef

Soas

GoBobcats24

Welp this is the injury that puts Miller in the starting lineuo

powellrmp

ah farts man

spectre

hate being that guy but hell someone else might get to shoot now

powellrmp

oh man, that's happened to me before

Chef

Terry isn't the problem. Melo is the problem

powellrmp

i didn't warm up and i played pick up one saturday morning (mid 20s) and during a spin move i pulled my groin so bad i coudln't feel feelings

spectre

ummm no terry does not move the ball

definitely a problem

powellrmp

Terry moves the ball into the basket, individually

Chef

He never has. That what he always has been. Not having a real lead guard in melo allows terry to do what he does

spectre

not getting a 2nd pg

meloFan

Time for Melo to shine in the last 5 mins

spectre

but definitely Melo has been a big negative

powellrmp

he'll do some shining, im sure

he'll shine for the pacers

melo, i love you. show me how wrong i am buddy

but we were so so so much better without melo on the floor

spectre

oh my god

powellrmp

HAYWARD

Chef

"It's Miller Time!" might be the best panther too :grin::grin:

Mich_Mercer

I love "It's Miller Time!"

spectre

so how is that a flagrant

Mich_Mercer

hes the only guy we have who doesn’t back down

powellrmp

DUDE LETS GO

this is the only context i will ever ever ever say this: LETS GO BRANDON

that is 100% how i played defense

spectre

5th game and 24 is what rallies us. Who’d have thunk it after the draft

Chef

Because the league is weak sauce spec

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spectre

Should be intent to b flagrant

powellrmp

for context, i was a wayyyy undersized point forward. and i had to deal with guys way bigger than me

meloFan

That's a plus for us

spectre

ha on them lol

meloFan

Love Miller's edge and grit

powellrmp

yep, i'm 100% ride or die with brandon now.

that's my favorite play of the season

meloFan

I hope it rubs on Melo too. Melo definitely needs to lose the "I'm too chill" attitude.

powellrmp

YEP

spectre

24 guarding Halliburton

powellrmp

except, i would do that foul earlier on in the game. because later in the game, the higher chance it is for a tech/flag foul

Chef

Has someone explained to Cliff what that fat outside arc on the court means when they are on defense?

spectre

lol

Originally sent in Game 5 CLT at IND
powellrmp

beacuse when you land that hit early in the game, i'm 110% that the other team will stop picking on you and stop laying shitty screens. because they'll remember

meloFan

Nope, Cliff still thinks it is 1975

GoBobcats24

21 3s for our last 2 opponents. Unacceptable

spectre

And we hire the guy twice

powellrmp

considering most of those threes were pretty open shots, i'd say its pretty acceptable

Mich_Mercer

No idea how we are up this gsme

powellrmp

it's like giving a team a longer, more valuable free throw

Mich_Mercer

but we are going to lose

spectre

not so quick

powellrmp

i don't care, brandon just gained all of my respect

spectre

Bright side is we’re still in this game after all those 3s

powellrmp

which is absurd. also, thanks for terry hitting shots and playing a touch of hero ball

now we're just hanging on with our fingernails

Mich_Mercer

Omg….

Chef

Yes cliff, the don't have to be right on the line. They can also be way behind it and it still counts

spectre

ok tht was good perimeter d

powellrmp

can someone grab the screen shot of the brandon charge for me at some point?

spectre

Isong hayward

just move the ball

Chef

Hello mark

meloFan

What did PJ just do?

spectre

wtf was pj thinking lol

GoBobcats24

PJ got fouled there but out on us

PJ is a dumb player

meloFan

Did anybody tell our team that this is NBA and not YMCA?

powellrmp

hahaha

spectre

i mean a score would have been great

powellrmp

oh man. oh boy

spectre

should have pulled back tho

Chef

Old man yelling at the clouds here

Reviews should be down in New York and within 10 secs radioed in to the ref as what the call is.

meloFan

100%

powellrmp

you could've done a lot of things with that. and that was one of the things you couldve done PJ. that's fine

Chef

This should take 15 secs total

meloFan

Cliff needs to be on an Adirondack Chair drinking beer, not coaching the team

powellrmp

unless…BRANDON TACKLES THE OFFICIAL REVIEW

Chef

This is effectively a double TV timeout

Mich_Mercer

Totally should have just held the ball there and not rush it

spectre

Lol dell checkers v chess

powellrmp

shhhh

spectre

were doomed

Chef

Hey Adam silver this is not must watch TV right now

powellrmp

the fact that we win any amount of games is a gift by god (or whoever)

Mich_Mercer

We are about to give up a 3. Then call a timeout. Then turn the ball over bc we can’t get it in… and then lose at the buzzer.

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powellrmp

yeah, thats what took so long. brandon tackled the review official out of state

Chef

You've seen this episode mich?

powellrmp

this is a rerun, but i'm just here for you guys

Chef

Haha. This is the episode where they give up an and 1

Mich_Mercer

Here we go

powellrmp

and not Rerun from Whats Happening

Chef

And a worthless challenge.

Mich_Mercer

gonna make this free throw and call a timeout

watch

Chef

Easy block

spectre

i’ll go with charge

and I’ll b wrong

GoBobcats24

This shit is fucking rigged thats a charge

meloFan

very rigged

powellrmp

eh

Chef

He's literally still straightening up when the contact occurs

meloFan

That is a charge

Mich_Mercer

Of course

of course

spectre

hilarious

powellrmp

sorry boys, that's a blocking foul.

oh

wow

wow

spectre

i know right

Mich_Mercer

We are about it over guys

powellrmp

hahaha

Mich_Mercer

Just wait

GoBobcats24

Of course we call our final timeout when a foul call in immenent lol

powellrmp

rick carlisle's face hahaha

Chef

Inbounds. Oy

powellrmp

guys i wish i had that screen grab hahaha

Chef

:joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:

meloFan

Why is PJ not grabbing the ball

WTFFFFFF

spectre

oh my god

Mich_Mercer

Fucking fuck

told
You guys

spectre

why

Chef

Melo. Nice

Mich_Mercer

I can not believe we one

won*

spectre

hahahaha

meloFan

Melo redeems the bad game?!

spectre

this was great!!!

powellrmp

i wish i could set the last 5 minutes of the game to the benny hill music

JFoster

Idk how the hell hornets win but ill take it

Mich_Mercer

No idea… I feel like we losr

powellrmp

HAHAHA

Mich_Mercer

but yeah… I’ll take it

Chef

Iso is the worst Jordan/Kobe legacy. I don't get why coaches do that on the last possession

powellrmp

DIDN'T MELO SLAP HIM IN THE FACE

hahahaha

JFoster

PJ damn near gave me a heart attack

powellrmp

didnt we do this in indy last year? around this time?

GoBobcats24

Welp nice win nice of Lamelo to punk Hali there at the end

meloFan

@powellrmp I dropped the screengrab on the main thread

cltblkhscoach
#Game 5 CLT at IND

Glad to see Melo step up defensively. 74 points in the paint is awesome. Hope Terry is ok

Groin strain.

Something is definitely not right w/ LaMelo - I am hoping that the last play sort of throws him into another gear positively. All in all, a little concerning though.