Game 5: ORL at CHA

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ORL coming off a loss in DET, where their shooting woes continue, and us coming off a loss where we just looked frustrated in MIA. I got my bets on the good guys locking down the Magicians and sending them home pissed.

Miller out according to Hornets PR. May be a tall ask - but hoping we can have a tick more transparency on our player’s injuries this season. Still hoping for the best here.

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Don’t worry they are playing the hornets so it goes without saying someone unexpected will go 7-9 from 3

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Tonight is a night to change that

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Starting three rookies?

This team is dog CRAP, mellow is dog CRAP

coach is Dog CRAP +

and

Kon is super white CRAP (which is much worser :joy: than normal CRAP

love the dribble off toe in Q1

By the way, I’m white

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Our team is cursed and besides that if coach Lee substitutes players that make good sized runs to get back into games we are close in only to see our subs squander any kind of runs we make we for sure aren’t going to win games like that. Also based on Hornets history is it any wonder teams struggling end their suffering against us, New players but the same results. The more things change the more we see they stay the same! I predict that at this rate we will lucky to win 25 games all season if something doesn’t change. Is that something the head coach? I don’t know but we shall see.

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Eastley

Who's in?

tnhornetsfan

Looks like the magic fixed their offensive issues

Eastley

Their bench hasn't checked in yet

tnhornetsfan

Has there been an update on Miller?

TheDorkLord

I've not seen anything new

Eastley

Not a bad end for a terrible start

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tnhornetsfan

Tre seems so indecisive on everything. I didn't think he was going to get the inbounds pass in.

Where's the team from the second half of the wizards game?

Mich_Mercer

How many times are we just going to drive in and get blocked?

I feel like the guys on the court would make a really good colllege team.

4 rookies out there… Lol

Well…. Who’s the best player in the draft next year?

Why can’t we guard the 3 point line…. Like ever…

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GoBobcats24

We absolutely can't get a call tonight

They are going to overturn this and give Lamelo his 4th

Mich_Mercer

They’ll review this and screw us

TheDorkLord

I thought we finally got a call

GoBobcats24

We are not allowed to make any contact while other team can hack. New season same shit

Mich_Mercer

Nope. Never

Every year feels the same.

tnhornetsfan

Bane forced the contact with the elbow. Should be a charge. IMO

TheDorkLord

it looked like it should be, but have no doubt they'll find a way to overturn it

Mich_Mercer

You guys think miller will be back this year from his sore shoulder?

With this team…. I’m just not sure. lol it’s funny how fast this team can make me give up

TheDorkLord

wow, extended the arm and they stuck with it

Mich_Mercer

What happened to us passing the ball around and everyone being in double digits. I miss that team.

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Eastley

Good times, good times

Chef

Miles needs to be better. He mucks up rotations and can't reliably score

TheDorkLord

ORL has been coached well to get fouls

tnhornetsfan

Why was that a foul

GoBobcats24

Getting Kon 1 shot so far is pretty terrible

TheDorkLord

they sell it every chance they get

GoBobcats24

Also we are playing very slow

TheDorkLord

on draft night I never would have thought I would be this happy with Sion

Mich_Mercer

Cheap foul there

Time for more bogus calls, since we made it close.

Icky_Thump

Kon -18?

Mich_Mercer

So many charges tonight…

GoBobcats24

Kon hasn't had the best night but honestly they haven't involved him much in the offense

Mich_Mercer

The whole team has been Hornets like

TheDorkLord

yep, and he has started forcing shots now

Eastley

This has been such a frustrating night

coaching, playing, officiating

Mich_Mercer

It’s been awful… but I’m used to it.

TheDorkLord

tre, jeez again

Mich_Mercer

I turned it to the nfl game for a little bit.

And we still can’t draw up an inbound play. Should have stayed on the commercial on the nfl game.

I hate Tre Mann now.

Icky_Thump

Everyone stand in a corner while Lemelo is like WTF

Team is cooked if Miller is done

Mich_Mercer

wtf….

Why do I keep watching this

Why don’t we run plays?

Icky_Thump

So… anyone got a draft prospect list going?

Mich_Mercer

Maybe we can trade Tijan for a late first round pick or something…. That works for us.

Icky_Thump

Who would do that?

Mich_Mercer

I’m kind of making a joke

Bc we trade our lottery picks and players for worse things

Eastley

I love this kid from U Tenn - Arnet

Mich_Mercer

I just don’t get how this team can look so goood and then are like “forget it…… let’s just not run plays and make everything hard”

TheDorkLord

Darryn Peterson, AJ Dybantsa, and Cameron Boozer… next draft prospects for us

Mich_Mercer

Crazy how close we were to VJ Edgecomb.

And Wemby.

Icky_Thump

we need front court help unless we are forced to trade LaMelo cause he's tired of waiting for the rest of the team around him

Mich_Mercer

We need players who don’t get hurt so easily.

Icky_Thump

That too

Eastley

In their feelings as much as in their limbs

Mich_Mercer

Like what the hell is wrong with miller. Why won’t they tell us?

Eastley

they told us dude, it's a subluxation of the shoulder

that's not a mystery

Mich_Mercer

Oh did they

Icky_Thump

If Miller could be out there I know he would be

Mich_Mercer

My bad… I thought it was still “soreness”

Icky_Thump

The rest of the guys have to step up

Eastley

no, they have been very clear on that

Mich_Mercer

My bad. I’m just mad. lol

Anyway…. They’ll cut his arm off. Out for reason.

Eastley

I wouldn't mind swapping out Colin for Kon right now, that would draw the defense to Kon and free up Miles even more right now and if not, give Kon free line of sight to the rim

TheDorkLord

the rotund lady sat back down for now

Eastley

she's just sipping her warm water

Icky_Thump

WHY is moussa AND Kalk out there?

TheDorkLord

oh well, she's warming up

Icky_Thump

WHAT THE HELL?

Man timeout and put Kon back on the becnh

His head ain't in it tonight or something

Mich_Mercer

This offense. Taking turns just to drive in and do something dumb

Icky_Thump

-22

Mich_Mercer

We have no ball movement

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Icky_Thump

Headed out to go check the nba draft guys you all mentioned and dream of the day this team is ever competitive

Eastley

Man, my hopes and dreams of this being a different team dying in front of me is so deflating

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TheDorkLord

I could have coached this team better tonight

"we're just 3 years away"

Kon was doomed with that lineup. There was zero action out side of him. Sion, kaulk and miles murdered kons game. Then melo went hero ball.

The other lineup that has to go is moose, miles, Sion, tre and Liam. Tre, Sion and miles can’t be on the floor at the same time

Cmon

he is cheex bro

I want him to be the great white hope but dang

He’s slooooow and if anyone pays him any attention, he is toast… and not rye

The problem is, there is no other lineup. Yes, we have rookies who are beyond their years, but…we feature 4 rookies with a heavy ish load. Salaun and Diabate are basically just as inexperienced. The only vets we have out there were Melo, Miles, Mann, and Sexton.

There is nothing to mix and match. Until we get Brandon and Grant back, I guess Josh too, the majority of guys we’re relying on have very limited experience.

A burly bruiser PF is the needed prescription for the team, Miles (or should we start calling him Half-Miles since he only shows up in the second half) can’t cut it for a faux big. That spot is the biggest glaring hole we have.

Also, we’re the only team in the league that still doesn’t employ a center that shoots a 3. They’ve emphasized searching for one every year since Zeller, they tricked us with videos of Mark and Kalk nailing 3s during the pre draft process, and none of them even look at the rim.

Byron Mullens was truly ahead of his time. He’d be in shooting heaven right now.

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This is where coaching needs to come into the equation. If dummies like us can point this stuff out, they have to understand the limitations of the roster. Given this, why aren’t you running more constricted sets in terms of player freedom etc. I am not saying a college or highschool style motion set but an adaptation for young pros. Something that puts young players into a position for success. And gets low bbiq players like miles moving.

Founding is correct on kon. He is slow and isn’t going to beat a defense head on when he becomes part of the scouting report. It doesn’t mean he can’t still be good. The coaches have to figure out how to get players like him in positions to succeed.

Yup, going to have to involve him in the offense a hell of a lot more than last night and not in the positions we put him in.

I have a feeling we are still blowing up the warriors about Kuminga

I wonder Sabonis is available from the kings. Two questions

  1. Can he play pf
  2. What would be the cost

Man these last 2 games have been deflating. I know BKN and WAS weren’t good teams, but we don’t even resemble the same team that played the first 3 games in terms of defensive intensity, ball movement and shot selection.

Agreed, and even though a bit undersized, Grant was filling this role fairly well for us. We’ve really missed him since he’s been hurt. Have we heard a return date on him? Gotta be close.

Though I’ve warmed up to Kon quite a bit, this is still a true statement. The question with him was always about ceiling. The true high ceiling guys aren’t lineup dependent and don’t require a scheme to get them involved. But at worst he’s giving high end complimentary guy, which is fine. Besides, he’s definitely not problem.

I feel like we’ve got some decent individual pieces but we can’t seem to bring them all into alignment as a cohesive group. Despite the early season mirage we’re back to looking like a bad AAU team, just like last year, and that’s on Lee.

Man, what at this point makes you think he’s a winning player? I have never seen it and certainly don’t in Sacramento.