"Neva' Lost" LaMelo Ball Thread

Kendall played 300 more games than Rex.

Kendall was better at Rex in scoring, rebounding, passing, and defending.

Rex did a great job becoming a 3 pt specialist the second half of his career. I imagine that’s what kept him in the league.

Banging KG’s girl is an off court accomplishment. We have acknowledged that Rex has the superior off court career.

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KG played until 36 and had low production in his those aged seasons to bring down his overall averages while Rex didn’t have any seasons past age 32.

If you look at steals/assists/rebounds per possession played during their time in Charlotte, KG has the definite edge, along with points per fg attempt.

Kendall was simply the better overall player when taking into account both ends of the floor.

Founding, I was looking for some lists of best Hornets players just to see how they compare on the lists. Trouble is, I can’t find any with Rex on it. :man_shrugging:

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[I legit feel bad talking about Rex. Dude was alright and it seems like he’s overcome a lot in recent years to achieve success. Glad to see.]

Hahahahahaha

Touche’

Damn, that’s good company

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Rex banging Garnett’s girl?..is how I read that at first. Gill didn’t play well enough to be known by his initials.

Speaking of stories, I’m gonna need a couple more Rex stories. Are any the reason he got traded out so early?

But if we’re being honest, the sad part is even debating between Rex and Kendall being on a top 10 franchise list in the first place. They shouldn’t even be near a top 25.

As good as Bob Bass was at getting value at trades, we never really kept anyone more than 2 seasons. Only 19 players have played at least 5 seasons here (among the top of our longest tenured list is Matt Carroll, Zeller, and MKG at 8 years, and Biz for 7 years). Nobody to ever build on. Theres only been 7 players to become an all star while in Charlotte. 7 Guys. In 32 years (minus the 2 that didn’t exist).

Eddie Jones was one of those that made an all star team and we only kept him a year and a half (although I felt he kinda didn’t play hard for us and didn’t really want to be here).

We really have been a damn farm team for most of our existence. This was a depressing research project.

From the limited vantage point of attending a few games here or there and watching plenty on television…

Trading Rex: Don’t have a story, but obviously the early 90s were much more position oriented and the Hornets had a 2-guard logjam with Dell, Rex, and Kendall. Now you could play all three of them at once. Not sure what they saw in Tom Hammonds, the guy they traded Rex for.

Yeah, it’s a little depressing we haven’t kept more high quality long-term talent here. I dunno. The Bobcats made some lousy draft moves which I won’t bore people with again. At least we kept Kemba 8 years?

As Founding mentioned recently, the Hornets really did try to keep Zo but he simply wanted out. If Zo stays, who knows, maybe we build an entirely different culture here the way San Antonio was able to build something with Robinson/Duncan.

21st century nonexistent luck in the lottery positions(until LaMelo) and too many poor draft choices. Here’s to a brighter tomorrow.

The “official” story on the Rex trade:

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Drafting LaMelo and signing Hayward has turned out to be very inspired choices by the Hornets. Especially when there were so many decent reasons not to.

Look at what is happening around these guys.

Miles is being rediscovered and gaining national attention for his spectacular plays. Now he’s making open 3’s as well.

Rozier is suddenly a dead-eye shooter that you better not leave alone at the arc.

Zeller is figuring out how to play with Melo. Biz is finding value in a situational role.

These guys love playing with Melo/Hayward. Add Monk now finding his way again and … well … good times, really fun basketball.

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Rex was on the block even before that year started. Rex was too quiet and the pressure of having the weight of a franchise at his age and with his lack of EQ was simply too much.

Yes there was a logjam at 2G but there was also the fact that Rex had chronic foot problems…(bet y’all did not know that.) Rex had a bad case of planter fasciitis and the team was worried about his longevity. I know this first hand, in fact, someone in my family recommended the foot doctor Rex was sent to help him heal as they were looking to trade him and needed Rex to not to be “damaged goods.”

The rumors on Kendall’s girl were just rumors. It was also said that LJ had experienced her :-). I don’t believe either actually.

The red suits were 100% true as I was there.

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Y’all can trust Founding on those 90s hornets stories for sure. Great reading. Lol

Think I remember wanting Tom Hammond’s for bench help and his offensive post ability. The Achilles heel for those 90s Hornets teams was a lack of a quality bench outside of Dell Curry and Kenny Garrison.

Hornet hater Rony Seikaly in at the end of that article. Boy he was a villain in those early years.

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But back on Melo, the great thing is we have Michael Jordan as our owner. For once, this is where I think we have an advantage. If there’s anyone that knows how to market a superstar and maximize his potential that’s the guy.

Long term, I expect that relationship to grow and really mean something. Lavars dad was happy Melo got drafted to Charlotte and there’s something to taking a place and truly making it your city and your brand. Jordan can sell that into making him truly a 1 city icon.

I do vaguely remember a foot issue now (I was only like 9-10 at the time, so a little fuzzy).

So, that article said Carl Scheer thought he’d be the next Jerry West, huh? Was he always crazy like that? Cause expecting your pick to live up to an NBA legend may be kind of add undue pressure. Also, wasn’t Dick Harter supposed to be a hard ass, maybe that made it tougher on Rex. (And was Gene Littles in over his head, or did he not really ever want to be a head coach?)

I think that greasy son of a bitch was the start of my Heat hatred

Yeah, this may be the first real opportunity for Jordan to mentor a big time talent on his own team. I love Kemba, but its different being a great player on a small market team, vs being somebody who is already a brand name before even really starting.

There is a delicate balance of overcelebrating anybody too early, which will lead to their eventual crash (Kobe, Tiger, yes, even Britney Spears). I think the key may be in not giving him the keys to the city and access to anything and anyone, but rather trying to weave him into the community fabric, like with the Thanksgiving street turkeys, or Kemba with the Boys and Girls club, or Cody and his sock drive.

Shoot, maybe they can even start a Ball Academy for underprivileged youth to get a better chance for scholarship and opportunities. If he feels this is his community, then that would be the tie that binds him here.

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i don’t think this stuff matters that much. not trying to be snarky or doubting the players motivations (i really do think they are altruistic in their community outreach stuff) but i think they can very easily uproot to another city and at the same time continue their work in the first city.

the reason for the quote was the first sentence and a half. you can’t let them decide the make up of the team. even with lebron, it goes pretty bad but in lebron’s case, his talent can over come it to a large part. but it sets them up for a fall and eventual wanting to leave. most of it is behind the scenes, but when everyone on the roster, staff and FO knows that star player x is calling all the shots, eventually, when things don’t go right, they get the deserved blame. then they respond by wanting out because literally everyone is looking at them sideways.

Haha, remember 23,113 booing his sorry ass every time he touched the ball. Hilarious!!

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I agree to an extent, most people will make a business decision in their best interests regardless, I was kinda looking at it broadly in terms of the whole nature/nurture argument in humans. Yes, most people have an innate general disposition, but how much does influencing their formative years push people in a certain direction?

Give a kid whatever he asks and not have any accountability when they get out of line, they are more likely to become entitled and feel superior to their peers and have less empathy. On the flip side, tell a kid they’re not good enough and what they do doesn’t have value, then they probably won’t have as much confidence and drive. Sometimes a person’s nature is strong enough to overcome these influences, but there is a significant enough number of people who have a lasting affect.

What I was really trying to get at is what gives a small market team the best chance to hold onto a top talent when they finally get one. Once you give someone access and power too early, you can never take it back without destroying a relationship. Changing the approach and perhaps engraining them in the community and having them feel that they helped build it up through their works, it can make it a degree harder for them to up and leave.

Just always gotta use any of the few tools at our disposal (along with offering the largest contract, building a good team). Would rather a Giannis situation here than an Anthony Davis. Thats all I was advocating for in my long winded way of speaking/typing (not sure if its my nature or was nurtured by my upbringing…)

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very well said. i agree.

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