2024-25 Hornets General Discussion

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The headline says it all. And with the Luka trade it sure looks like itā€™s the truth as far as the league making sure the ratings markets are taken care of

IOW the sports entertainment fix is in

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I only have room for one wwe in my life. Itā€™s time to reevaluate my NBA viewing and spending habits.

Pretty sure the Warriors are linked to everyone in the nba and a few mlb players. Not to say anything is impossible though.

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Itā€™s just interesting that they are linked in this article to two players that they have zero assets to get.

Unless of course itā€™s a Luca style trade

The hindrance is they would have to involve a contender to move guys like Dray or Kuminga. They donā€™t have the draft assets to do this with us alone. ā€¦I wouldnā€™t think

Only one martin left. Whatcha got Milwaukee?

Iā€™m fine with it. Iā€™m at the point where Iā€™ve given up on everything. Iā€™ll take kuminga and Moses moody off their hands. And some firsts.

Everything is terrible, put me out of my misery.

Hey, at least weā€™re not Chicago

I was so upset. Knee thatā€™s who we were picking but had no idea we were trading him. Same with Duren. Happy with Mark but my Lord what a miss on Shai

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Yeah, but if he was here heā€™d probably be hurt.

Guys, I have a great idea. What if we trade Cody Martin for Lebronā€™s Strength/Conditioning Coach/Trainer and his personal doctor? I think this trade would take us into the playoffs by keeping our players on the court.

Trade him for one of LeBronā€™s full body dry ice chambers.

This team needs to trade everybody excluding miller, salun, diabate and start over

They wonā€™t but they should

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Blow it the eff up.

Get back some players who actually dress out and play in games.

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I dunno man, I donā€™t care about Salaun. I know I know, heā€™s young and raw and blah blah blah. I get it. Heā€™s just not who I wanted to draft and Iā€™m not particularly impressed.

Iā€™d be stoked to be wrong on Salaun, but I just donā€™t see it working.

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If you can get three firsts for Melo you do it in a heartbeat. Even if itā€™s two firsts and a good player, heā€™ll yeah.

Kuminga and two firsts? Sure man.

Granted, to make GSW salary cap work with Melo, weā€™d have to take on draymond and/or get a third team involved in this circus

fine by me

I would qualify those firsts. I donā€™t want 3 late firsts. they do no good. i need good firsts. so i am talking to teams like houston, okc, etc. teams that have other teams firsts that could be high picks.

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Yeah I completely agree. Thatā€™s another example of why itā€™s going to be very tricky and convoluted to trade Melo. Cap space issues, quality of draft pick compensation, which players theyā€™ll send us that we would want, etc. Iā€™d imagine involving a third team would be pretty unavoidable.

I just threw that one out as a general framework that will need to be tweaked quite a bit. Iā€™ll need to take a dive at salary cap stuff over on spotrac.com

Edit: Given GSWā€™s salary cap situation, I donā€™t see how they could avoid shipping off one of Draymond or Wiggins to make a Melo trade work. Both Wiggins and Draymond have player options for the 2026/27 season, and are then UFAā€™s for the 2027/28 season.

Wiggins: 28m for the 2025/26 season with a 30m player option for 2026/27.
Green: 26m for the 2025/26 season with a 28m player option for 2026/27

  1. Kuminga comes with a 8m cap hit this season, and is a RFA for the 2025/26 season. And I donā€™t see how Kuminga would sign for anything less than 20m per season. (Which I think would be worth it)
  2. Wiggins or Green would without a doubt use their player options for the 2026/27 season. I absolutely do not want either of these guys on the team through 2027. Big no.
  3. If you factor in being stuck with Wiggins until 2027, Kumingaā€™s 20ish million salary, and the quality of GSWā€™s first round draft picksā€¦it makes the trade less desirable.
  1. I donā€™t see how to make this work without a third team to facilitate.

Final thoughts, Meloā€™s supermax cap hit really isnā€™t all that bad when compared to other current and upcoming supermax deals (38m, 41m, 43m, 46m through 2028/29 season. As much as I want to trade Melo for the sake of ā€œresettingā€, the idea of being stuck with Wiggins or Draymond through 2027 makes me nauseous. I like Kuminga quite a bit, but he alone doesnā€™t offset the negatives. And itā€™s not like GSWā€™s first rounders will be any good, like Chef mentioned.