Game 2 - Pistons Come to Town

I understand where you’re coming from with this line of thinking. I agree that taking a flyer on young-ish players like Wiseman or Bagley could make sense under the right circumstances. You’re right that it likely wouldn’t take much to pry them away in a trade, however given their salaries, we’d have to send back around 12 mil to match salary so that would be the challenge. Assuming Wiseman becomes an UFA this summer though, signing him to a minimum deal just to see if there’s anything there could make sense. He did put up decent numbers for Det last year.

We’re as set at C as we’ve been in a long time with Mark and Nick, but to your point, I think there have been opportunities in past years when we desperately needed depth in the post and there were available players who could’ve helped us in some area. Drummond (rebounding), Whiteside (rebounding, rim protection) Wood (scoring, floor spacing) are a few examples of bigs who would’ve addressed an area of need that could’ve been had on minimum or near minimum deals. They all have their shortcomings as players, but I think front offices and fanbases alike can sometimes fixate on what guys don’t do well and ignore the things they do at a high level. As that relates to guys like Bagley and Wiseman, I think your point is well taken.

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I was listening to a podcast, I think it was Plowright, and he said he expected Lamelo to have some rust to start the season. I suspect that is what we are seeing with him right now. Once he is back in the groove, look out.

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His numbers are a mirage. He has a ton of basketball maturity to go through. Especially as the pg.

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Of course he does but if a near triple double is so easy as to be a mirage we would have had multiple players in our history with a boatload of them.

Especially since the Bobcats era we’ve had such a pitiful list of guys with such talent. I appreciate the hell out of him.

Vizzini, you keep using that word, I don’t think that means what you think it means.

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Originally sent in DET vs CLT Game 2 of 82 (83?)
GeraldWallaceMVP

Game two of 98

dnbman

Evening

spectre

Interesting lineup for the pistons. All pretty long/athletic and young

dnbman

Oldest at 22 is pretty wild

Forced 5 TOs already

spectre

I dont follow these guys but my first impression is caydes the man who can go off and the others will try and outwork us

dnbman

I don't know either, but he dropped 30 the other night, so sounds right.

spectre

also wild it looks like we got one of the 2 in the top 5 who can shoot lol. Bet that doesn’t happen a lot

and then Thompson nail’s a 3 so I’ll shut up now

That was really nice by miller

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woodsy23

Lamelo not got going so far this season

spectre

Little better than last game but yeah

we need to keep feeding 24 all 3 shots of his been nothing but net

jesus the TOs

woodsy23

Aye the turnovers

Not sure what the stats are but feels like we’re getting pumped on the board too

Mark been quiet so far as well

spectre

caught that right? Melo not getting a lot of court time recovering from ankle injury

This summer

I dont think mark has gotten anything on offense has he? Not one pass inside

woodsy23

makes sense

Nothing, looks like he’s packed on some weight over the summer though? Hopefully bodes well - but a bit passive out there so far tonight

From Twitter: So Mark Williams has played 11 1/2 minutes and has no points, no rebounds, no blocks, no assists. How's that possible when you're 7 feet tall?

:sweat_smile:

Showing a bit more hustle

FoundingHornet

Bull shit lineup, effort sucks but Cliff sucks worse

woodsy23

Well… scratch that

FoundingHornet

Are you watching game or just saying shit watching the ESPN game cast?

BTW, Mark lost a shit ton of baby weight and will build back from there. Patience clown

dnbman

Like to see a Mark dunk followed by a Melo 3.

JFoster

Come on mark! Nice dunk but gave an and 1 and now free throws. Bagley is attacking him

spectre

Ugh 3 on mark now

FoundingHornet

I can honestly say that I have never seen Thor get a basket in a life game.

spectre

we have basically 3 forwards and 2 guards on the court

woodsy23

Watching - I’d say mark’s gained some noticeable weight over the off season. (Maybe lost some baby fat but gained some good weight)

JFoster

This lineup is a bad ide…

Idea

spectre

I have to think “beef stew” has to b in the running for worst nick ever lol

…and for deserving guy. Ass

dnbman

Pistons aren't fans of "It's Miller Time!".

JFoster

Why they messin with miller?

spectre

didnt the pistons have the worst or 2nd worst record last year? We got their guy! Id b mad too!

dnbman

Beef stew got the chest bump and got his feelings hurt and Durren didn't like Miller being around for the clock violation.

woodsy23

https://www.si.com/nba/hornets/news/excitement-for-mark-williams-sophomore-campaign as I thought… up to 260 from 245 and looking strong but cheers for your input :+1:t2:

dnbman

I'm predicting a big 3rd quarter.

for the home team.

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cltblkhscoach

Oglesby is awesome on Bally, great analysis

spectre

This game is showing why PJ just got the MLE

4 on Mark

dnbman

Cade and Aumen with 4 fouls

Sorry… Ausar

spectre

its aggravating being down to these guys

dnbman

How about Wiseman not checking in the game yet?

He and Bagley both #2 picks on the bench.

spectre

Interesting. Wiseman looked decent the few times I saw him

here we go

just when we start making a run we crap the bed

dnbman

IDK about that challenge

spectre

Ya me either but the officiating has been pretty bad. Feels like they’re getting away with a lot

he won it!

dnbman

We're forcing so much

spectre

24 doing well guarding Cunningham. Does that mean he can play SG? :laughing:

Terry Rozier mr 4th quarter

JFoster

Lookin at the box score. Seems like mark is having a rough go. Was rly hoping he would show up duren

spectre

Boom!

powellrmp

LETS GO!!! B MILL!!!

sick mr miller!!!

spectre

damn great d just can get the possession

powellrmp

Love the dunk and flex by miller

spectre

lol no foul

i apologize in advance if a few choice words slip out

powellrmp

Wow the bad officiating continues

that’s crazy man

spectre

cant win

FoundingHornet

We should’ve traded Mellow for several firsts, like I said earlier. He is not an alpha guys.

And Cliff is a shit coach

spectre

I hate rhe pistons and their fans

FoundingHornet

yoi cant blame officiating or anything else on this game. It’s coaching , effort and toughness

spectre

Definitely a part but the officiating certainly held our aggressiveness in check

i mean it kinda hard to be aggressive sitting on the bench

powellrmp

I don’t think any one is blaming the officials for the L, but objectively many of the calls and non calls were pretty mystifying.

As someone else said I don’t really understand why Miller was taken out after the 3 and dunk combo

spectre

not hitting these shots isn’t helping either

powellrmp

I stepped away for a moment and was confused as to why muller wasn’t in. For a split second I wondered if he got injured, I was that confused

miller*

spectre

He’s got a lot of burn tonight

Thompson looks so uncomfortable shooting the ball thank goodness we didn’t end up with him

sucks but we deserved this. On to the next

Haha PJ! I fully support that move

powellrmp

To be honest, the Thompson twins were my nightmare. So glad we dodged that bullet. If we had pick 4 or 5 I wanted us to trade back to avoid them

Mich_Mercer

I forgot the chat was a thing. I put all my complaints here next game.

Eastley

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