Random ex-Hornets facts

Wallace trade became Tobias Harris and Shabazz Napier, both traded away on draft day.

Tobias Harris was traded with Stephen Jackson and players to Milwaukee for the Biyombo pick and Cory Maggette.

Baz was basically traded for Hairston.

Vonleh was traded TO Portland along with our other Gerald for Batum.

1 Like

Ah, understood, correct draft, wrong draft pick. I didn’t remember that the Vonleh pick was a DET trade (was that the Bad Porn to DET for Ben Gordon trade?)


Sometimes I forget we had a lot of these guys on the roster.

Like we had Shaun Livingston at one point. He was supposed to be the next evolution in point guard when he came out.

I loved Liv here so much

Remember that was who Bernie was targeting with our pick until we got gifted the 2nd overall for Emeka.

Ya I can’t choose between Crash and Kemba either. Both times we traded them I stayed butthurt for months.

I :heart::heart: Crash

Foxhole guy


Anybody know the reason why Crash isn’t celebrated by the team? I know there was definite bad blood when he was traded at the literal last second (I thought we were safe that year until they announced it like one minute after the deadline closed).

Since I view Kemba more as a Hornet since his best years were wearing purple and teal, I see Crash as Mr. Bobcat. What happened to honoring all our past legends during certain games. I remember Zo and Dell, and I assume Muggsy, but don’t really recall that. But Crash definitely deserves a night, and as the best representative of that era, should have some corner of the arena honoring him.

Pretty sure Wallace felt betrayed and doesn’t want to have anything to do with the team anymore.

The conversation over current money is a bit crazy in this context, because you’d definitely keep him around for $10m/year.


1 Like

This trade came a week after my 11 year old self saved up for months and finally bought a Gerald Wallace Jersey

I’ve had a handful of situations like that. Never been a jersey guy, but years ago almost bought a Marian Hossa shirt when he was a Thrasher. Then he got traded. Then the team left. Was done with named gear at that point.

This quote from another thread sent me down the rabbit hole of finding out whatever happened with MKG.

He never played again after he was bought out by us and ended up on Dallas. Not even overseas or in any minor league.

Here’s a really interesting older article, it seems he still lives in Charlotte with his wife, and started a foundation to help people with stutters get expensive speech therapy to actually be covered by insurance companies. Has a lot of insight of what he went through, the mental aspect of his life and career. I did like this quote at the end:

How would he describe Michael Kidd-Gilchrist as an NBA player? Is there a way to sum up what his place in the league was?

“From my career, as a whole?”


“Damn, that’s a tough one.”

He paused for a bit, not blocked in his speech, just thinking through how it all added up. Maybe that was an unfair question, maybe the question should be …

Kidd-Gilchrist interrupted that thought.

“If you never quit,” he said, “you never fail.”

Someone did make a case for him to be signed last December as a switchable, role playing defender, but his offensive limitations may be too much for a team to invest in:

Here’s his foundation site. Not surprising he’s continued to be a great guy off the court as he always was here:

1 Like

Great stuff QC thanks for digging that up. I had no idea.

Now I feel bad about the crack tho!

Oh yeah, it’s all good, he started with the terrible hitch, to having his elbow inverted to the left side of his head to… something.

But this paragraph on Wikipedia sheds some light on why a lot of us were longer holdouts that he could eventually come around.

On November 10, 2012, in just his fifth NBA game, Kidd-Gilchrist had 25 points and 12 rebounds in a 101–97 win over the Dallas Mavericks, marking Charlotte’s first-ever win over Dallas in the franchise’s nine-year history, ending a 16-game losing streak against the Mavericks.[11] He had a second 25-point, 12-rebound effort on December 19, 2012 against the Phoenix Suns.[12] He became only the second player in NBA history to post two games with at least 25 points and at least 12 rebounds before his 20th birthday and became just the fourth player in 20 years to record two such games in the first 25 games of his career.

The trajectory looked good! Just not coming from his hands…

Gerald Wallace really hated Rod Higgins for that trade at the time. Higgins and MJ were close and probably still are, so maybe with the new ownership something could be done like a Bobcats night where we bring back all the legends.

Primo Brezec
Melvin Ely
Adam Morrison
Walter Hermann
Raymond Felton (As he enters doing the Larry Brown half court spin play)

Wow, he’s really not found much traction in the league. I’m a bit surprised

Yeah for a bit there he looked better than Richards to me.

Great find and thanks for sharing this! Was never too high on him as a player, but he seems like a genuinely good guy who’s doing some really impactful work. Great to hear the update.

Yeah, me too. I remember posting once that I thought we should keep him over Richards. That post didn’t age well. Nick was always the better athlete but just didn’t have the coordination early on. Once the game slowed down for him a bit though, he improved exponentially. I think VCJ’s lack of athleticism has probably hurt him a bit. His game just doesn’t seem compatible with what people are looking for these days.

1 Like

I was happy when we drafted him. Thought he was a versatile big, who could eventually stretch the floor etc. Oh well, guess not.

Remember feeling OK at #32 picked Carey. Confused A few minutes later traded for project Nick Richards at #42.
Mitch preaching patience as expecting both 2 years away from possibly being worth getting any minutes.

Then next year draft Kai & JT…poster said always stuck with me…2 years away from being 2 years away.

And Carey didn’t just sophomore slump after decent rookie prospect…fell apart. Somehow made 16 TO in gleague Swarm game.

1 Like