For me it was to be a player with superstar potential coming back
Iām not trading a potential top 15 player in the league unless I know Iām getting another player who is currently at that level or has the potential to reach that.
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Exactly GW
I know you love melo and I loathe him. (Both overstated for effect) In all seriousness though, I can not put him as a top 15 player when he doesnāt play.
Talent wise itās debatable but top 25 definitely isnāt. However, he just doesnāt play enough to be considered a top 15 player. Which is why if Detroit offered Ivey + a 3 first unprotected package, I would definitely consider it.
If Utah offered lauri m + 3 1sts I would do it in a heartbeat
And if melo could stay on the court, I wouldnāt trade him to be clear
Really hate that we didnāt nurture his talents better. Think JB was on the right track but feel this is the sort of thing that Clifford didnāt do well.
I think itās a structure issue more than anything here. Thereās no pressure on him there. Heās seeing a teamās 3rd best defender and not counted on offensively.
We never had enough of a consistent structure for him to thrive - though I will say heās pretty much been the same player there that he was here.
The difference is the world is seeing him now and itās in the playoffs. 2 things we canāt provide. Lol
Having two NBA superstars makes life a whole lot easier.
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He also did not put anywhere near his best effort forward here and would disappear for seemingly weeks at a time, also wasnāt playing with anything near this level of āwant toā on defense.
He disappears there too. Pj is great to have on your until you NEED a solid 15/8 game from him to win.
The second you need pj to be consistent you are in trouble.
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Thatās great that heās had two good games lately against OKC. Super happy for PJ and not going to take that away from him.
But he did shoot 28% and 31% from three in those last few months over the regular season. One month he was 37%.
And again, heās hit 12 threes the last two games. Thatās great and all, but when he gets cold, he disappears. It wouldnāt shock me if you told me PJ scored 7 points next game.
Oh, and speaking of structure. Good comments from Charles Lee on his conversation with new GM/basketball ops, Jeff Peterson. Peterson essentially asked charles Lee:
āWhat is it going to take to build some winning habits here, some more professional habits? And create the right culture of whatās needed for this team?ā
For me, huge emphasis on the āprofessional habitsā part that a winning NBA franchise requires. Iāve questioned this team and franchise on so many things. Especially the medical and training aspects.
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Playing with two future hall of famers, including an MVP candidate makes a big difference. Iāve said it time and time again, weāve had a lot of really good role players but getting the star players is the most difficult part and what has alluded us for almost our entire existence.
Which is also why I think itās foolish to be talking about trading Melo. While itās true he has to be on the floor to make a difference, he is a star level player when heās on the floor and the odds of him being healthy are a lot greater than the odds of us just going out and finding another star level player to replace him when we have rarely been able to get that type of player throughout our existence.
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Here is my take after getting the 6th pic. There are 2 players that the teams are going to have trouble getting rid of that we could actually use and get some future draft compensation for, Jason Collins and Harrison Barnes.
Collins could be the pf we need next to Mark while Barnes brings the vet presence we need to guide this group.
Out going Micic, Martin, Thor and Bertansā
Melo, Mann, Smith
Miller, Knect ( 6th), Curry
Miles (resigned), Barnes, McGowens
Collins, G Williams, Poku
M Williams, Richards, FA
Thoughts
I like your thinking, and do agree that Barnes would be the sort of player/personality whose contract is more justifiable/warranted on this roster. We absolutely need an experienced, professional like we had with Marvin Williams.
One point, pardon the pun, of note ā¦ I wouldnāt want to move Micic on without replacing him with a genuine PG, which I do not think Mann is, and feel certain Smith is not.
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Uh, yeah co-sign that
I know I am getting old, she looks about 25.
Then it was pretty brave of the Pelicans to hire her at 8 years old.
I dig the move. More youth and experience in the front office is all plus imo.
Youth with experience too, everyone weāve hired has 10+ years of experience despite being on the younger side of things.
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Are you saying you agree with me? If so Iām going to put in an app for the next up and coming GM.
it wasnāt a critique. itās that at my age everyone under 35 looks like they can be in college maybe
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