Hornets Summer League

I don’t disagree, but my real worry is how he’s looked when the ball is in his hands (or the primary defender on defense). I mean, this is a number 2 pick, not number 20. Even with a bad offense/plan, you expect him to dominate these guys when he does have the ball. Still too early, but I too am a tad concerned. Let’s hope he shows out tomorrow night and we drop this talk!

I do think another thing that’s been ignored by a lot of outlets is Miller’s recovery from mono.

How long does the exhaustion from mono recovery last? When it comes to exhaustion from mono, there’s some variability. Doctors say exhaustion can typically last for a month or two, but it’s possible for someone to only feel fatigued for a week, or feel run down for as long as six months or longer.

So with him already being weak, then to lose 10-15 more pounds from that, and not have his normal fitness level… We’re likely seeing the worst version of him, along with the environment of playing in the basketball Hunger Games, and his own teammates looking to get theirs at the expense of others.

I’m hoping he drops 30 on Wemby tomorrow to shut all the naysayers up. But it might not be until closer to the season before he’s even back to playing close to his normal self again.

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I just want to see him aggressive and demand the ball.

It’s summer league my guy. Enjoy the rest of the guys out there trying to make the roster. With no real point guard, no one is going to pass the ball consistently, except for Miller.

Saw someone already comparing BMill to Adam Morrison… like a complete comparison.

It is worrying. Yet another Summer League where the Hornets look like they met 5 minutes before tipoff. The contrast to the Spurs, in particular, was stark. It is an extremely damning indictment on the coaching staff responsible.

Miller, is pretty close to what I thought he would be. He’s simply not what you expect from a wing you pick second overall, in that he isn’t a three level scorer, and you can’t just dump the ball off to him and say “go, create for yourself”.

Maybe, hopefully, he gets close to that over the next three years. I certainly think he has a chance, because most of his limitations are physical. Hopefully he’ll get past the Mono and have the genetic potential to add burst and power.

That said, he shoots the ball very well, he passes the ball very well and the effort is there on D. He’s absolutely a team player. I think he’ll fit into our rotation, into any rotation, extremely well and be a valuable piece within it. The question, which was always the question … is that good enough from a second overall pick? He looks more like Khris Middleton + than any of the loftier comparisons that were hand out. But again, I think we all knew that.

I think his bust potential is extremely low. I think his star potential is heavily dependent on athletic improvement. It’s clear to me that the front office discounted Scoot because they were already going to commit to LaMelo. In their shoes, I would have heavily explored trade back options. They didn’t, but we have a promising wing who shoots, passes and will defend on our roster. Not a bad outcome.

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It’s going to be very interesting to hear the gibber jabber if scoot lights up the 7p game

By interesting, do you mean unbearable? :joy:

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Yup, kind of like when Jeremy Lin would have a purple patch and his fans would demand we start him over Kemba.

These knee jerk reactions over a guard centric rec game are pretty hilarious.

And a good bit, “here we go again”

Kinda weird, just last night i was trying to think if we retained any of the “Only Lin” fans that professed their “I’ve always been a Hornets fan too” fandom at the time. The Asheville guy stuck around a bit but I can’t think of any others.

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Yeah like I was saying in chat I can’t remember us being in this type of situation but the “Lin Era” came to mind.

Even with Morrison I don’t remember as many sour grapes.

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I think the biggest difference with the Miller situation is so many people wanted a specific, different pick at number 2. If we had the 3rd pick and Miller was who we got (Wemby and Scoot off the board), I don’t think there would be anywhere close to the level of scrutiny. That’s unfair to Miller, but just the way it goes sometimes, unfortunately. I think he’s going to play better tonight, though. I can just feel it!

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This can’t be overstated enough

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Very true. At 3, assuming we couldn’t have traded out of the pick for a good package, I’d have gone for Miller ahead of the other prospects.

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I have such high respect for this board I’m sure this will pass quickly and everyone will be on board. As Hornets fans that’s what we do…else everyone would have left long ago!

At least he doesn’t shoot from the side of hi head like a former high pick of ours lol!

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It absolutely is and strangely I don’t think we’ve ever been in quite this situation.

It’s all good. Can’t wait for this season to start tho.

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And that guy might have been far more electric in SL. But if, in the final or even sooner analysis, he’s not a substantially better NBA player, I am not sure what our want matters. And the reality is that it’s largely equal parts nature and nurture so even if that #2 ends up being all world, there’s no guarantee he’d be so here. And vice versa if Miller ends up setting the world afire, that might only be able to happen here w/ a guy like LaMelo creating all sorts of gravity in his early years. We don’t know, we won’t know. I am good with that.

On to Vegas tonight right. SL G1 LV Channel is open:

#Las Vegas Summer League Game 1 - Chat - Hornets Planet

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Miller has to have 15 attempts tonight or its gonna be, Wemby with 20 and 12 wow but "It's Miller Time!" sturggles again

I think this may have been the biggest thing in the front office’s analysis. It’s not just pure fit over talent. It’s hard to quantify or analyze, but the synergistic effects of certain players with each other have proven more important time and time again in sports than pure talent.

We saw how Miles unlocked a portion of Melo’s game. He’s an amazing, pinpoint passer at the rim, but the threat of the lob wasn’t there this past year. There were no between the leg no look passes. Defenders weren’t caught in the middle on Melo drives on whether he was gonna shoot or lob over their heads. Makes it easier for Melo.

For Miller, having a sharpshooter next to you opens up your driving lanes more than a ball handling wizard. And Miller’s propensity for not only being a willing passer, but a decisive and precise passer will increase the ball movement, which will help Melo tremendously not only on open looks, but off ball movements, going off screens, resetting positioning, etc.

Even in the world where Scoot’s a better talent, I could see both Melo and Scoot getting frustrated with more ballwatching as the other tries to go one on one. Scoots a good passer, but his first read will undoubtedly be to beat his man and get to the rim, whereas we see Miller always making the read to find whoever will get the best scoring chance.

Thats my hope at least. Since I can’t pray on Scoots downfall, cause I’m not that sort of guy, I’ll just stick my head in the sand regarding any of his outbursts.

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